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Re: Poto: Rolling Hills Park

Postby G.Cook » December 15th, 2013, 10:18 pm

and then RHP is a tight twisty trail for the Fat-Bike on a "normal" day . The texture of the snow was a contributing factor , I think , in the tracking of the ride . Something I was thinking about when making my way around the N. loop of the Poto Sat.
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Re: Poto: Rolling Hills Park

Postby Steve_Balogh » December 19th, 2013, 11:16 pm

Had the day off work, got out to the trail just after sunrise. First lap was tough, did the second in the opposite direction, and the third was easiest. I didn't do the Munger mound section. Well packed down now, but hard to say how long the snow will hold up for.
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Re: Poto: Rolling Hills Park

Postby Kazie » January 10th, 2014, 8:07 am

I went to RHP last evening. The trail was covered by a foot of snow. I and my studded skinnies couldn't take it. I did a few laps on the pavement and went home.

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Re: Poto: Rolling Hills Park

Postby Luis_LS » January 13th, 2014, 10:51 pm

Steve_Balogh wrote:I managed to pack down the trail a little ways past the crater. Ran out of water and time. Conditions varied from 1/2 inch to drifts almost up to my hubs. Crunchy snow made riding difficult. Only encountered one short section of hiker prints, not many people were out there, no skiers either. I'd ride out a ways, ride back, then continue on, ride back, reverse and so on so there'd be around and 8-10" wide track layed down. When I left, a couple of guys went out on regular MTB's, not sure how it went for them. I told them where my tracks would end. When I reached the point of stopping, I had a nice ride back.


Thank you Steve for your advice.
We when into the trial for very shot distance (~100 yards). It was to difficult for our skinnies :oops:
We rode some miles on pavement only.
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Re: Poto: Rolling Hills Park

Postby ChrisInYpsi » January 17th, 2014, 10:29 pm

Did a full lap tonight in the dark. Lotsa work. There were tracks up to the gravel road crossing by the log skinny, but the rest was unridden. Nothing but 8 bazillion frozen hiker footprints in crusty deep snow with a few inches of fresh powder on top. Was like riding through a minefield for several miles. Did a fair bit of hiking up hills and through deep drifts.

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So there's a track on the whole trail now at least. Much but not all will be rideable, although not easily. If anyone wants to help ride in the trail you might consider doing a reverse lap since the tracks on first half of the trail are fairly wide already.
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Re: Poto: Rolling Hills Park

Postby Steve_Balogh » January 23rd, 2014, 10:16 pm

Kazie wrote:My tires are Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro 2.35 front and rear... But it may be something more to do with my bike. It's a Spesh Epic. It's very difficult for me to keep the balance and go straight in very, very slow speed where it slips and slides every few inches. It's not a bike designed to go slow in the first place... It's a good practice for balancing, though.


Trying to think back riding a normal bike - can you/did you try locking out your suspension? I seem to remember sometimes suspension acts funny on icy conditions. I had better luck with a hard tail with a rigid fork. From the start to the crater was probably a good ride for you, but afterwards I remember some good bumps where I let a bit of air our of my rear tire.
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Re: Poto: Rolling Hills Park

Postby Kazie » January 25th, 2014, 9:53 am

ibisman wrote:My bike uses the completely different way to ride deep snow. I use 1.8" studded tires and they are not affected by deep snow as they don't float on top, they cut through to the ground or ice. I have had no problems other that the cold temps this winter. I've been riding where There are no tracks other than deer and rabbit. You don't need a fat bike but I still want one. Just ride.

Hm... That's an idea. I didn't think about that. I may be going to give it a try. Thanks, ibisman!
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Re: Poto: Rolling Hills Park

Postby Kazie » January 27th, 2014, 11:08 pm

ibisman wrote:My bike uses the completely different way to ride deep snow. I use 1.8" studded tires and they are not affected by deep snow as they don't float on top, they cut through to the ground or ice. I have had no problems other that the cold temps this winter. I've been riding where There are no tracks other than deer and rabbit. You don't need a fat bike but I still want one. Just ride.

Question to Mr. ibisman! What studded tires in that size do you use? So far I only found Innova Tundra Wolf 26x1.75/1.90. Someone sells them for $70 each at eBay.
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Re: Poto: Rolling Hills Park

Postby michael48197 » April 6th, 2014, 8:41 am

Thanks to Greg Cook and a passerby/MTB newby - Arthur send me your contact info - a good start was made on the newly approved northern loop at RHP. We rough cut the first 1/4 mile or so after re-orienting part of the proposed trail in the first corner to take better advantage of the terrain. The next 1/4 mile also needs some pruning and digging out of thorn bushes. But, the remainder of this first section up to the Merritt walk-in entrance is all mowing so it will be quite fast to clear the track.

I would love to see a bigger crew out at the next session. I'd like to have a team do a trail walk-through to clean up winter debris and then finish up this first section to Wiards. If that gets done quickly, then we can start clearing the N-S and E-W tree line sections on the return to the kettle pond. The return loop on the east side of RHP is still under discussion, but may be sorted out by the next work day. Regardless of the exact location of the trail tread on the N and E edges of RHP, virtually all of that work will be mowing.

However, I'll need some help to make this happen...hopefully next weekend. Can anyone with a trailer hitch commit to helping pick up a brush hog for the mowing next Saturday? Having a trailer too would help, but we can always rent a trailer. If I get that commitment by Monday or Tuesday, I'll call an official trail day for RHP next Saturday.

This new loop runs across old farm fields. In some places, there are significant furrows which will obviously need to be fixed. Right now the top soil if very wet. As such, I'm thinking that the smaller bumps will get smoothed out quite quickly by just riding. It's possible to run a rototiller over the trail track and then tamp it down, but that is a lot of work to do with a walk-behind tiller (there's not enough room to drive the 36" pull-behind tiller on the RHP tractor). Also, I fear that the trail tread will turn into a channel after tilling. I think natural compression of the soil and gradually wearing away the grass will yield a better track in the end. So, I don't think we will till unless needed. Let's be patient and see what happens.

The permafrost is not quite gone yet at RHP. So, please stay off the trail for now. There are still some snow/ice covered areas in the trees. With highs in the 50's predicted all week, I think the snow will be gone this week. If the frost layer melts out as well, then RHP may be open for riding within 2 weeks.
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Re: Poto: Rolling Hills Park

Postby ARTY-J » June 2nd, 2014, 8:48 am

So the current addition to Rolling Hills trail (Wiards) is open for business? How long will it take before it is smoothed out?
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Re: Poto: Rolling Hills Park

Postby ChrisInYpsi » July 19th, 2014, 10:44 am

Found a pair of black sunglasses while trimming near the SW meadow this morning. If they're yours let me know.

I was hoping to finish trimming today but there is a huge disc gold tournament going on and the Stihl was distracting to the "golfers" ("discers"?). I finished up near the start of the W fence line. There's not too much left in that area.

I may not have time for several days to get back to the park so let me know if you want to borrow the trimmer.
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Re: Poto: Rolling Hills Park

Postby jmf003 » April 17th, 2015, 1:00 pm

Took some time out of my morning to ride RHP and HC. Things have dried to the point where RHP is in great shape. HC is rideable but still wet and soft in the marshy area with the foot bridges.

Whoever cleaned up the winter deadfall in both parks did an AMAZING job. Thanks!
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Re: Poto: Rolling Hills Park

Postby mattchewie01 » July 11th, 2015, 3:06 pm

It's no longer "getting"... it just is lol. Down trees, head hunters, you can almost make out the trail by the pond. Don't even try to go past the pond cause you will meet thorns of biblical porportions.

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