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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby Esox » December 19th, 2013, 1:05 pm

Ah if I new it was you I would have known you were kidding. I didnt want anyone messing with that part of the trail. I love that section! I should have gotton some pics of your bike, the lights are very cool. I hope the rain holds off as the trail is in great shape. No bike tracks but mine fom Monday that were covered with a couple inches of snow. Some sections had skiing and foot traffic.
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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby utabintarbo » January 4th, 2014, 6:30 pm

Rode essentially all of the singletrack today. All was clear except for the ~4" of snow over the 1/2" of ice on most of the trail. IOW, perfect! :D
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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby tripleskulls » April 1st, 2014, 9:00 am

Rode the paved trail yesterday. It is plowed and clear of snow south of Riverland. North of RIverland had some snow and ice, especially under the VanDyke Bridge. The mountain bike trails were very icy/muddy from what I could see at the entrances. The driest entrance was the "snake" area at the north end of the south section.
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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby jhmotard » April 2nd, 2014, 7:41 pm

I rode the paved trails today and peeked in on the dirt, it would dry quicker without the thick layer of leaves. Still a lot of wet holes that need to dry up, especially the last straightaway.

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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby mkow1234 » April 3rd, 2014, 8:30 am

I rode the pavement yesterday, but I also peeked at some of the dirt trail at the southernmost end.
It is pretty muddy and wet still.
At the end of the Loch Ness Monster section and just before the elevated footbridge, there is a large wet area.
There were two ten-foot sections of wood and screen walkway that had been dragged on the side, and they were under a fallen tree.
I dragged one of them out and placed it over some small logs, to help trail runners.
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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby Mack » April 3rd, 2014, 10:26 am

CRPT is not close to being ready to ride, as is the case with most trails in S.E. Michigan.
I'm heading out there next Tuesday to take a look around. If anyone knows of deadfall that
need to be removed, please post up with the locations.

Thanks, Paul
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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby tww112477 » April 7th, 2014, 9:31 am

Paul,

There is a log/tree down less than .25 mile into the first loop from the power lines. Also after the long bridge right at the start of the rollers the trail is completely washed out.

Do you have any dates that people will be other there to clean up the trails? I've never worked on a trail crew, but I would like to give back. Let me know and I would try to make it out there.
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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby 2slo2endo » April 8th, 2014, 1:35 pm

Rode the paved trail, and the M53 end looks GREAT... If you own a Kayak! Can't wait for the trails to dry out!
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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby utabintarbo » April 21st, 2014, 8:23 pm

Rode the entire trail this evening. There is a low leaner on the trail next to M53 right above a pretty squishy spot. There is another squishy spot that kinda requires a dismount just north of the long bridge. There are a few other places that will require some attention on an upcoming trail day, but shouldn't keep anyone from riding this trail.

Of course, it's supposed to rain tonight, so YMMV. :P
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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby 2slo2endo » April 25th, 2014, 9:41 am

Rode the trail last night and it was in very good shape. Todays rains will probably change things. That leaner alongside M53 is very low, but poses no danger as it is in the middl e of the straightaway, so it won't surprise anyone.
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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby Mack » April 25th, 2014, 10:38 am

2slo2endo wrote:Rode the trail last night and it was in very good shape. Todays rains will probably change things. That leaner alongside M53 is very low, but poses no danger as it is in the middl e of the straightaway, so it won't surprise anyone.


2slo thanks for the update. I will get out this weekend to take care of the leaner.
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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby Mack » April 25th, 2014, 11:00 am

tww112477 wrote:Paul,

There is a log/tree down less than .25 mile into the first loop from the power lines. Also after the long bridge right at the start of the rollers the trail is completely washed out.

Do you have any dates that people will be other there to clean up the trails? I've never worked on a trail crew, but I would like to give back. Let me know and I would try to make it out there.


Hey there tww112477, welcome aboard! Thanks for the update. Yes we do have a trail day coming up on Saturday May the 10th from
10am till 2pm. We meet a the trail head at Edison Court, then break up into teams and disperse from there. Don't worry about not
having been to a trail day, at one time I had never been to one either. No need to bring tools we have those for you.
This will give you a good idea of what to expect from a trail day. Hope to see you out there!

Trail Day FAQ:
The trails we love don't just happen. Most of our trails were created by mountain bikers and are maintained by mountain bikers - just like you.

Working on a trail you love to ride can be very rewarding. Each time that you ride the trail you’ll look back at your work with a sense of satisfaction and pride that you made the world a little bit better.

As a chapter, we value your time and try to do everything we can to make trail work a pleasant experience. We've invested our membership dollars to support you with a tool trailer stocked with the equipment and supplies that you'll need, and we have trained crew leaders and coordinators to answer your questions and help teach you what you need to know.

Trail work can be addicting and for many of us it has become a hobby and passion in its own right. Still, for each of us, there was a first trail day. Getting ready for that first trail day is what this FAQ is all about. The following suggestions should prepare you and make the work more enjoyable and less intimidating.

Trail Coordinators

Each of our chapter trails has one or more Trail Coordinators. These volunteers work with the park land managers to coordinate trail development and maintenance and to resolve issues. Our TCs are schooled in sustainable trail design and may have a decade of experience on a particular trail. Feel free to contact them any time with suggestions, concerns, or questions.

Trail Days

From time to time, one of our TCs may call for volunteers for a Trail Day. Trail Days are days that we gather together as volunteers to focus our efforts at a particular trail. Some trail days may be focused on a particular large project, such as rebuilding a bridge or opening a new section of trail. Other trail days may be focused on maintenance - fixing mud holes, trimming branches, and other routine activities which keep our trails pristine.

How will the day unfold?

Each trail day is different, but they generally follow this outline:
1.Volunteers gather and introduce themselves, usually near the trail head or parking area. Often the chapter will provide bagels and coffee if it's a morning event. Liability waiver forms will be passed around, a requirement of our insurance and land managers before work can begin. This also helps us track attendance and volunteer hours.
2.The trail coordinator will share a short safety talk, highlighting the need for caution when working with sharp tools in close proximity with others in a forest environment. They should discuss any particular challenges in the trail work planned, and make sure everyone knows where first aid supplies can be found in our trailer.
3.The trail coordinator will then divide the volunteers into smaller groups, identifying the crew chief for each group and the goals for the day. (If you have any particular interests or have concerns about the group you're assigned to, now's the time to raise them. It's easy to realign groups before work starts.)
4.The crew chief will talk about your tasks in more detail, gather the tools you'll need, and you'll head out to the work area.
5.If the trail day spans lunch, everyone reconvenes at the designated time for food, beverages, and to share progress.
6.Depending on the work remaining, groups may head out to continue work, or new groups may be formed to work on other tasks.

What should I wear?

It's a matter of preference, but hats, long sleeves and long pants means less chance of getting poison ivy, bug bites, scratches, or sunburn. Dressing in layers is a good idea as well - trail work tends to keep you warm in cooler temperatures.
■Gloves are a good idea to protect against blisters. The chapter trailer is well stocked with gloves. Feel free to use them.
■You'll probably do a lot of walking over uneven terrain. Work boots are a good idea, especially if you'll be using a shovel.
■Eye protection - Most cycling glasses work well. The chapter trailer has a small selection of safety glasses you can borrow.

What should I bring?
■Water - some folks bring a bottle along while others prefer Camelbak's. You just don't want to get dehydrated. On larger organized trail days, we generally provide bottled water.
■Snacks - It doesn't hurt to stash an energy bar in your pocket. The chapter generally provides a lunch for our volunteers – pizza or grilled food most likely. If you have any special dietary needs, it's best to provide for them on your own.
■Bug repellant – Depending on the time of year, bug repellant may be a necessity. This usually is available from the Chapter trailer, but it doesn’t hurt to bring your own.

Should I bring tools?

If you have some of these tools, it doesn't hurt to bring them along to the trail work day. Here are the common tools we use at most trail days:
■Leaf rake -- For clear leaves and other duff from new trails.
■Shovel -- Useful for filling low spots or building rolling grade dips/knicks. Round point shovels work best.
■Branch loppers, pruners, bow saws -- For cutting branches
■McLeod - a robust, long handled rake with a sharpened edge on one side and robust, finger rake on the other. Used to clear organic material, spread soil, and pack down earth.
■Pulaski - an axe-like tool that is useful for cutting into dirt, digging trenches, and clearing roots .

If you don't have tools, that's not a problem. The Chapter trailer is fairly well stocked with tools and can accommodate most trail day needs.

Depending on the planned trail work, other tools may be useful. For example, if a bridge is to be repaired, then there may be a call for cordless drills, hammers, wrenches, and saws. If work like this is planned, then Trail Coordinators will announce these special needs before the trail day.

In general, you should not plan on bringing power tools (such as chain saws or brush cutters) without discussing it with the trail coordinator first.


I have ideas for the trail - can we work on those?

It depends. At some local trails, we are given wide latitude to make these decisions and implement changes, but at other trails we are much more constrained in the work that we can do without prior land manager approval. In any case, you'll need to share your ideas with the Trail Coordinator, who can provide further insights (which may include coaching you on how to best present your ideas to a land manager directly.)


Can I bring my kids?

There's usually something kids can do and find exciting, but use your judgment. Most young riders get as much satisfaction clearing sticks and branches from the trail as adult riders do. Some times they simply like being in the woods and discovering all sorts of interesting things. Still, it's important they have proper protection and remain away from any potentially hazardous trail work. And poison ivy.

Should I bring my bike?

That's not a bad idea, but it depends on the trail conditions. There's nothing more immediately rewarding than riding a newly groomed or constructed trail with the other volunteers.

Bike trailers can be especially useful during trail days, helping to carry shovels and tools out to the work site.

Can’t make it to a trail day - Can you work on your own?

Yes. Each of our land managers has different rules regarding work, especially using power tools. In general, you’re always welcome to use loppers or pruning shears to clear encroaching bushes, to remove branches and debris from windstorms, and pick up any trash that you find. Beyond that, it’s best to check in with the Trail Coordinator for the trail – you can find them on our contact page or in the trail guide.

There's a guide to trail trimming available here that might be useful.

Should I report my time?

Reporting and tracking the time that you contribute to a trail is one of the most important things you can do to help us build and maintain great relationships with land managers.

For organized trail days, the TC will report your volunteer hours based on the waiver that you signed at the beginning of the day.

For independent work, please report your time using the form available here.
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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby 2slo2endo » May 4th, 2014, 4:12 pm

Do you have any use for some pea gravel?
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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby Mack » May 5th, 2014, 9:34 am

Clinton River Park Trail (CRPT) Trail Day: Saturday, May 10th @ 10am.

Come out and join us for a trail day at Clinton River Park Trails (CRPT) on Saturday, May 10th. We will meet
at the Edison Court trail head which is here http://maps.google.com/?ll=42.587647,-8 ... 20&vpsrc=6 if
you are not sure. Bring the usual things such as gloves, eye protection, water etc. The CRAMBA trailer will be on site with tools, but
if you have a favorite feel free to bring it.

This day is to repair/ rework the berms in the switchbacks section, install hardware cloth on
a bridge, remove deadfalls as needed and general trail clean up.


See you there!
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Re: CRAMBA: Clinton River Park Trail (Dodge Park Trail)

Postby 2slo2endo » May 6th, 2014, 12:49 pm

See you then!
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