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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby Mike_D » November 25th, 2013, 7:44 am

Bigtymer wrote:
RickPlite wrote:Cannonsburg Winter Trails Program

• Beginning December 9, 2013 Cannonsburg will require a trail pass to ride on any of the MTB trails until the ski season ends.
• Daily trail pass will be $5 and can be purchased at the ticket counter.
• A season pass will be $30 and can be purchased at the main office.
• There will be approximately 3 miles of trails groomed for Fat bikes.
• Minimum tire width of 3.8” is required once trails are groomed.
• If there is no snow cover, minimum tire size does not apply.
• All MTB trails are open to riding, but require $5 trail pass.
• All trails to be accessed via main bridge.
• There will be no access via the connector from Egypt Valley Rd.
• Rental Fat bikes will available from the rental building.
• Bikes are not allowed on the ski hill except in designated areas.


Just curious, why do you need a 3.8 tire to ride on snow?:) I've ridden in snow with 2.5's just fine:)


They don't want a "skinny" tire pizza cutting their groomed trails.
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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby Bigtymer » November 25th, 2013, 6:14 pm

Mike_D wrote:
Bigtymer wrote:
RickPlite wrote:Cannonsburg Winter Trails Program

• Beginning December 9, 2013 Cannonsburg will require a trail pass to ride on any of the MTB trails until the ski season ends.
• Daily trail pass will be $5 and can be purchased at the ticket counter.
• A season pass will be $30 and can be purchased at the main office.
• There will be approximately 3 miles of trails groomed for Fat bikes.
• Minimum tire width of 3.8” is required once trails are groomed.
• If there is no snow cover, minimum tire size does not apply.
• All MTB trails are open to riding, but require $5 trail pass.
• All trails to be accessed via main bridge.
• There will be no access via the connector from Egypt Valley Rd.
• Rental Fat bikes will available from the rental building.
• Bikes are not allowed on the ski hill except in designated areas.


Just curious, why do you need a 3.8 tire to ride on snow?:) I've ridden in snow with 2.5's just fine:)


They don't want a "skinny" tire pizza cutting their groomed trails.


So an inch and three tenths is going to make a huge difference?:) Seems like you have you'll have a bigger cookie cutter line in the snow. That makes no sense. Plus fat tire bikes with cranks being so wide will cause one to have hip problems if you ride them all the time...lame
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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby Mike_D » November 25th, 2013, 6:53 pm

Bigtymer wrote:
Mike_D wrote:
Bigtymer wrote:
RickPlite wrote:Cannonsburg Winter Trails Program

• Beginning December 9, 2013 Cannonsburg will require a trail pass to ride on any of the MTB trails until the ski season ends.
• Daily trail pass will be $5 and can be purchased at the ticket counter.
• A season pass will be $30 and can be purchased at the main office.
• There will be approximately 3 miles of trails groomed for Fat bikes.
• Minimum tire width of 3.8” is required once trails are groomed.
• If there is no snow cover, minimum tire size does not apply.
• All MTB trails are open to riding, but require $5 trail pass.
• All trails to be accessed via main bridge.
• There will be no access via the connector from Egypt Valley Rd.
• Rental Fat bikes will available from the rental building.
• Bikes are not allowed on the ski hill except in designated areas.


Just curious, why do you need a 3.8 tire to ride on snow?:) I've ridden in snow with 2.5's just fine:)


They don't want a "skinny" tire pizza cutting their groomed trails.


So an inch and three tenths is going to make a huge difference?:) Seems like you have you'll have a bigger cookie cutter line in the snow. That makes no sense. Plus fat tire bikes with cranks being so wide will cause one to have hip problems if you ride them all the time...lame


Sorry but I'm not making the rules and I'm not a trail coordinator. I am only guessing this is there reasoning why 3.8" wide and wider.
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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby Bigtymer » November 25th, 2013, 7:24 pm

Mike_D wrote:
Bigtymer wrote:
Mike_D wrote:
Bigtymer wrote:
RickPlite wrote:Cannonsburg Winter Trails Program

• Beginning December 9, 2013 Cannonsburg will require a trail pass to ride on any of the MTB trails until the ski season ends.
• Daily trail pass will be $5 and can be purchased at the ticket counter.
• A season pass will be $30 and can be purchased at the main office.
• There will be approximately 3 miles of trails groomed for Fat bikes.
• Minimum tire width of 3.8” is required once trails are groomed.
• If there is no snow cover, minimum tire size does not apply.
• All MTB trails are open to riding, but require $5 trail pass.
• All trails to be accessed via main bridge.
• There will be no access via the connector from Egypt Valley Rd.
• Rental Fat bikes will available from the rental building.
• Bikes are not allowed on the ski hill except in designated areas.


Or maybe I am misinterpreting what it says up top there:). Fair enough:)
Just curious, why do you need a 3.8 tire to ride on snow?:) I've ridden in snow with 2.5's just fine:)


They don't want a "skinny" tire pizza cutting their groomed trails.


So an inch and three tenths is going to make a huge difference?:) Seems like you have you'll have a bigger cookie cutter line in the snow. That makes no sense. Plus fat tire bikes with cranks being so wide will cause one to have hip problems if you ride them all the time...lame


Sorry but I'm not making the rules and I'm not a trail coordinator. I am only guessing this is there reasoning why 3.8" wide and wider.
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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby Slimm » November 26th, 2013, 10:39 am

I think its pretty awesome that for 30 bucks you can ride groomed trails all winter. kudos to whoever worked on that with the ski area folks and made it happen

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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby Kampfire » December 4th, 2013, 1:08 pm

Any idea how much the fat bike rentals will be?
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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby Mike_D » December 4th, 2013, 1:25 pm

Kampfire wrote:Any idea how much the fat bike rentals will be?


Good question Matt! FYI - At Crystal Mountain, the fatbikes rent for $15/hour if that gives you an idea, I feel, would be on the high side.

I have a question if anyone knows.... What are the trail season passes going to be like? Are they going to be something you zip tie to your coat or bike, etc. just like a downhill ski pass? Hopefully it is not a sticker for the bike like a bike license since most people have more than 1 bike and who likes to put stickers on their bikes....
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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby Wanhala » December 10th, 2013, 3:31 pm

Mike_D wrote:
Kampfire wrote:Any idea how much the fat bike rentals will be?


Good question Matt! FYI - At Crystal Mountain, the fatbikes rent for $15/hour if that gives you an idea, I feel, would be on the high side.

I have a question if anyone knows.... What are the trail season passes going to be like? Are they going to be something you zip tie to your coat or bike, etc. just like a downhill ski pass? Hopefully it is not a sticker for the bike like a bike license since most people have more than 1 bike and who likes to put stickers on their bikes....


Cannonsburg Ski & Ride Area
Winter Trail info:
Open to riding during our operating hours:
Dec. 9-12: 4pm-9pm
Dec. 13: 4pm-10pm
Dec. 14-15: 9am-10pm
Dec. 16-19: 1pm-9pm
Dec. 20: 1pm-10pm
(Full Hours occur after Dec. 21st)
http://www.cannonsburg.com

Passes are available for purchase in the main office. $30 Season Pass (Classic Ski Pass, plastic you can clip to coat with your photo ID), $5 day tickets (purchase in ticket office)

Lights required at night, no dogs allowed, grooming of the Winter Trail hopefully occurring end of this week.

Bike Rentals: $25 for two hours, $40 for day. Includes a helmet.
-Surly Pugsleys, Origin-8 Crawlers (Flat pedals, QR seatposts)

*Minimum tire width of 3.8 required once trail is groomed*
Requirement is due to us grooming the Winter Trail. The trail is for XC Ski and Snow Bike use. Two loops available that will be groomed. You are welcome to ride the un-groomed current existing XC mtn bike trails as well.

More information available at the end of the week on our website and FB. http://www.cannonsburg.com

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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby Scotty » December 13th, 2013, 8:36 am

Bigtymer wrote:
So an inch and three tenths is going to make a huge difference?:) Seems like you have you'll have a bigger cookie cutter line in the snow. That makes no sense. Plus fat tire bikes with cranks being so wide will cause one to have hip problems if you ride them all the time...lame



yes. it makes a huge difference on groomed trail. It's a 50-100% increase in surface area between the tire and the trail. That's before you consider lower tire pressure, which also dramatically increases the contact patch. 2" tires have a pizza cutter effect and ruing trail tread for skiers.

on machined groomed trail a fatbike with 4" wide tires does less damage to the trail survace than a skate skier.
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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby RickPlite » December 13th, 2013, 9:13 am

from Cannonsburgs Faebook- The winter trails at Cannonsburg were groomed today. They are still soft do to the cold temps and light fluffy snow but will firm up. Still a bit thin for skiing but should be nice on a fatty.
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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby 57-180 » December 14th, 2013, 1:45 pm

Just leaving Cannonsburg. Trails are not ready. Sounds like signage should be up on Monday and grooming Tuesday am. I would suggest calling before you head out there at this point. They are close but not quite there yet.
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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby Wanhala » December 14th, 2013, 2:31 pm

Cannonsburg update:

Trail signage for the groomed trail will be up Monday along with Grooming hopefully. We will make a announcement then on what the current conditions are.

And additionally the fat bike crowd knows this but make sure to drop your PSI in your tires on your Fat Bike down to between 5-11 PSI for optimal traction on the groomed trail.
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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby Wanhala » December 16th, 2013, 3:56 pm

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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby RickPlite » January 7th, 2014, 2:30 pm

the Cannonsburg Winter Trails are closed to the public this Saturday From 11am-3pm January 11th due to the Farmers Fat Bike Race.
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Re: Western: Cannonsburg Ski Area

Postby TuRBo Todd » January 13th, 2014, 6:25 pm

Thinking of going tomorrow. How are the trails?
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