Mid-State: Ella Sharp

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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby Laser4G63 » September 9th, 2013, 10:05 am

Cleared some of the north trail yesterday. I am fairly sure I am done with trimming for a couple/few weeks due to my arm. I know one thing, I have a whole lot more respect for those who maintain other trails and think this is one thing EVERY mountain biker should chip in and do.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby jake » September 9th, 2013, 8:27 pm

Craig the North trail looked good where you trimmed. One of the Monday night riders (Linda) replaced the wood on the bridge on the North trail much better now.

Lots of riders out in the park tonight. Saw 3 other riders out besides our group, plus the guys from Consumers who ride on Mondays were out there too.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby Laser4G63 » September 10th, 2013, 8:28 am

Thanks.

I know they aren't perfect, but the trails are looking much better. I don't get scratched up as much and don't get as many burrs stuck to my clothes. I think that if the trails can be maintained that the word will get out and more people will ride them. In all honesty, no one wants to ride trails that are overgrown. It's a lot more fun to not have to worry about being scratched all to *beep*, dodging face slappers, or slamming your head into a down tree because of dodging face slappers, lol. I am going to keep trimming, I just have to take a break from it. And since the CCC has no interest in maintaining those trails, I am going to look into getting something gas-powered over the winter.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby Laser4G63 » September 14th, 2013, 3:59 pm

Couple trees down in the park. 1 at the beginning of tunnel, just before it Ys off. Another on 3-4 after the those two tree that are about handlebar's width apart. I think there's another but it has slipped my mind where it's at.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby ChrisInYpsi » October 12th, 2013, 4:07 pm

Rode all the Ella Sharp loops today for the first time. Some newbie comments:
- Challenging to navigate due to many unmarked intersections, heavy leaf cover in some areas, and many side trails (bandit?) that aren't on the best map I could find.
- Most of the trails were trimmed well enough, and the undergrowth should start to die back further in the fall weather.
- West river trail was impassible. Riding from N to S I got through to just past where it tees off to the back side of 3/4, but after that there were several downed trees, muddy sections, and the bushes on the side of the trail have grown completely together. Looks like it's been like that for a while, so maybe the map I had is just old and shouldn't show it any longer?
- It took me a little while to find the dirt jump area, but once I found it I was impressed. Someone has clearly spent a ton of time and effort building those jumps and berms. I was riding my FS 29er which was like brining a knife to a gun fight for that section, but I rode around a bit to rail some of the berms and take some of the milder jumps. Very cool.
- Tons of people in the park (soccer tykes and their families in the morning, then cross country runners in the afternoon), but I didn't see any other riders.
- There was a dude sitting on the top of the hill in Probert where all the clear bottles are piled up. He had an unleashed Rott running around the area. He got up and walked away after I passed by. Reeked of funny cigarettes....

Pretty cool trails. Seems like the few who are maintaining the trails are giving it their all but could benefit from more help. Biggest thing I'd recommend as a newbie would be to update the trail map and/or improve the signage at the trail intersections. This should make a good fatbike trail in the snow, so I'm gonna come back for sure.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby Laser4G63 » October 12th, 2013, 5:51 pm

ChrisInYpsi wrote:Rode all the Ella Sharp loops today for the first time. Some newbie comments:
- Challenging to navigate due to many unmarked intersections, heavy leaf cover in some areas, and many side trails (bandit?) that aren't on the best map I could find.
- Most of the trails were trimmed well enough, and the undergrowth should start to die back further in the fall weather.
- West river trail was impassible. Riding from N to S I got through to just past where it tees off to the back side of 3/4, but after that there were several downed trees, muddy sections, and the bushes on the side of the trail have grown completely together. Looks like it's been like that for a while, so maybe the map I had is just old and shouldn't show it any longer?
- It took me a little while to find the dirt jump area, but once I found it I was impressed. Someone has clearly spent a ton of time and effort building those jumps and berms. I was riding my FS 29er which was like brining a knife to a gun fight for that section, but I rode around a bit to rail some of the berms and take some of the milder jumps. Very cool.
- Tons of people in the park (soccer tykes and their families in the morning, then cross country runners in the afternoon), but I didn't see any other riders.
- There was a dude sitting on the top of the hill in Probert where all the clear bottles are piled up. He had an unleashed Rott running around the area. He got up and walked away after I passed by. Reeked of funny cigarettes....

Pretty cool trails. Seems like the few who are maintaining the trails are giving it their all but could benefit from more help. Biggest thing I'd recommend as a newbie would be to update the trail map and/or improve the signage at the trail intersections. This should make a good fatbike trail in the snow, so I'm gonna come back for sure.


The trails are pretty decent and everything you noted is already known. The problem is that the MMBA does not have authority of maintaining those trials and those who do, well, they have been MIA and seems like they just don't care. So, a couple of us has taken it upon ourselves to maintain them. We could always use more help in the warm months. My plan is to get out there during the cold months and cut back even more growth.

I have notified the park about that guy and his water bottles and it seems like they don't care. They just told me that it's hard for them to patrol that trail because it's kind of out of the way.

It's a great park and a nice asset to the people here, but it seems like there aren't many who care about the trails. The area has great potential, but due to the politics of the park and the group who "maintains" the trails, nothing can, or will, be done to improve them.

Glad you enjoyed them and it's great that you will be back. I tend to ride them several times per week since I live a couple miles from the park. I like them. No, they aren't the best, but I don't have to load up a bunch of gear and a bike to get there.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby jake » October 12th, 2013, 6:47 pm

I was out there riding early this morning. Little slick with the leaves being wet, but not bad overall. Had heard there were trees down in 3&4 haven't been in there though. I will try to get them cut next weekend.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby ChrisInYpsi » October 12th, 2013, 8:44 pm

Laser4G63 wrote:a couple of us has taken it upon ourselves to maintain them.

Wow - that's a lot of miles for 2 people. Kudos to you guys for such dedication!
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby aarontriton » October 14th, 2013, 8:52 am

I have recently heard that the city is planning on maintaining the trails at Ella.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby jake » October 14th, 2013, 7:39 pm

I'd be curious what you have heard. I know the park was looking at a group to access the trails, but haven't heard much since. Don't know for certain, but if they make this move and the park does indeed maintain them I think it will be bad. I believe we will lose the singletrack.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby jake » October 14th, 2013, 8:27 pm

I found this online for the master plan at Ella. http://www.cityofjackson.org/files/onli ... LAN_QA.pdf

No mention of the trails in here though.

Trying to find meeting minutes from the board of trustees. Shouldn't they be accessible by the public? Any idea where to find them or would I have to request them??
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby aarontriton » October 15th, 2013, 10:34 am

Jake i heard this from Bob Kingsberry . he had alot to do with the trails being built and with the park allowing mtbing at Ella sharp
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby jake » October 18th, 2013, 4:06 pm

Disc golf course going in. Curious if this will affect the tunnel trail, based on the map I would say yes.

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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby xcrdr » October 18th, 2013, 5:11 pm

That would be a bummer.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby aarontriton » October 19th, 2013, 7:44 am

Oh that would be great it would be just like the disc golf at fort custer . that i never see anyone use.
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