Burchfield is Closed to Bikes

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Re: Burchfield is Closed to Bikes

Postby jonw9 » November 30th, 2011, 10:10 pm

TenSpeed wrote:I was simply asking. I am not out on the trails destroying them. I respect the trails, and your implication that I do not respect them is pretty crappy. I also follow the rules, and requests. I like how you have this whole situation played out for me. You have me riding the trails, coming here, and bragging about the miles, and then complaining about the trails. I like how you think that you can just predict what you see as the future, and publicly slander me in doing so.


I know you were simply asking. And then when you were answered, you asked again. Then you tried the "hikers and skiers" defense in an attempt to circumvent the answer.

I have been on the forum enough to know that you were riding Swamp Thing while it was closed. That is not respect. I know how many hours you have logged this year on our chapter's trails.

I have this situation played out, because history tends to repeat itself. If you did it before (and you have) then the odds are you will do it again.

I like how you take an offer to clarify as public slander. Contrary to how you main feel, everybody is not out to get you.

Now that this thread has been sufficiently derailed, I feel this discussion has come to completion.

1) Burchfield Park is closed to bikes until further notice: This means on week days, Sundays, sunny days, snowy days, wet, dry, damp, moist, parched, flooded. Not until the park says it is OK.

2) Burchfield Park is open to hikers and skiers. If you need to get out to the park, here is how.

3) If you want to go snow riding, or if the trails are in appropriate shape (frozen, dry) there is still Anderson and Bennett park.
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Re: Burchfield is Closed to Bikes

Postby jonw9 » November 30th, 2011, 10:12 pm

Irony?
Look what I found:

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=103666&p=707745&hilit=burchfield+closed#p707745


Looks like we got an extra month (6 weeks?) of riding this year. We should be happy. No complaining last season.
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=101499&p=689724&hilit=burchfield+closed#p690476
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Re: Burchfield is Closed to Bikes

Postby TenSpeed » November 30th, 2011, 10:30 pm

jonw9 wrote:
TenSpeed wrote:I was simply asking. I am not out on the trails destroying them. I respect the trails, and your implication that I do not respect them is pretty crappy. I also follow the rules, and requests. I like how you have this whole situation played out for me. You have me riding the trails, coming here, and bragging about the miles, and then complaining about the trails. I like how you think that you can just predict what you see as the future, and publicly slander me in doing so.


I know you were simply asking. And then when you were answered, you asked again. Then you tried the "hikers and skiers" defense in an attempt to circumvent the answer.

I have been on the forum enough to know that you were riding Swamp Thing while it was closed. That is not respect. I know how many hours you have logged this year on our chapter's trails.

I have this situation played out, because history tends to repeat itself. If you did it before (and you have) then the odds are you will do it again.

I like how you take an offer to clarify as public slander. Contrary to how you main feel, everybody is not out to get you.

Now that this thread has been sufficiently derailed, I feel this discussion has come to completion.

1) Burchfield Park is closed to bikes until further notice: This means on week days, Sundays, sunny days, snowy days, wet, dry, damp, moist, parched, flooded. Not until the park says it is OK.

2) Burchfield Park is open to hikers and skiers. If you need to get out to the park, here is how.

3) If you want to go snow riding, or if the trails are in appropriate shape (frozen, dry) there is still Anderson and Bennett park.


When did I ride Swamp Thing when it was closed? I have been to Burchfield maybe 5 times this year...if that. The park was open during those rides.
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Re: Burchfield is Closed to Bikes

Postby jonw9 » November 30th, 2011, 11:25 pm

TenSpeed wrote:When did I ride Swamp Thing when it was closed? I have been to Burchfield maybe 5 times this year...if that. The park was open during those rides.


I would guess 09/11/2011. The park may have been open, but Swamp Thing was closed. It was not officially reopened until the 14th.
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Re: Burchfield is Closed to Bikes

Postby TenSpeed » November 30th, 2011, 11:36 pm

jonw9 wrote:
TenSpeed wrote:When did I ride Swamp Thing when it was closed? I have been to Burchfield maybe 5 times this year...if that. The park was open during those rides.


I would guess 09/11/2011. The park may have been open, but Swamp Thing was closed. It was not officially reopened until the 14th.


This is all that I can find near that date.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7176&p=730566&hilit=swamp+thing#p730596

I did ride it, the part that was opened, along the river. I didn't ride the part with the bridges.
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Re: Burchfield is Closed to Bikes

Postby jonw9 » November 30th, 2011, 11:43 pm

TenSpeed wrote:
jonw9 wrote:
TenSpeed wrote:When did I ride Swamp Thing when it was closed? I have been to Burchfield maybe 5 times this year...if that. The park was open during those rides.


I would guess 09/11/2011. The park may have been open, but Swamp Thing was closed. It was not officially reopened until the 14th.


This is all that I can find near that date.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7176&p=730566&hilit=swamp+thing#p730596

I did ride it, the part that was opened, along the river. I didn't ride the part with the bridges.


viewtopic.php?f=40&t=106434&hilit=trail+day
You rode past a crew of ~6 people building bridges on a closed trail.
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Re: Burchfield is Closed to Bikes

Postby TenSpeed » November 30th, 2011, 11:47 pm

Barrier was down. If the trail was closed, the barrier should have remained up. I am not going to apologize for that. I do appreciate you keeping tabs on where I ride however. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside knowing that you know where I am.
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Re: Burchfield is Closed to Bikes

Postby jonw9 » December 1st, 2011, 12:00 am

TenSpeed wrote:Barrier was down. If the trail was closed, the barrier should have remained up. I am not going to apologize for that. I do appreciate you keeping tabs on where I ride however. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside knowing that you know where I am.


I didn't think you would apologize. I see you took the time to note the barrier, so you knew it had been closed.
Back to my previous response, just ride where you want, when you want. You are going to anyway.

I don't track where you are, I have a book of people that don't follow simple requests, then complain about the trails.
It has 2 names right now: TenSpeed and Heavy Fluid...
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Re: Burchfield is Closed to Bikes

Postby TenSpeed » December 1st, 2011, 12:12 am

jonw9 wrote:
TenSpeed wrote:Barrier was down. If the trail was closed, the barrier should have remained up. I am not going to apologize for that. I do appreciate you keeping tabs on where I ride however. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside knowing that you know where I am.


I didn't think you would apologize. I see you took the time to note the barrier, so you knew it had been closed.
Back to my previous response, just ride where you want, when you want. You are going to anyway.

I don't track where you are, I have a book of people that don't follow simple requests, then complain about the trails.
It has 2 names right now: TenSpeed and Heavy Fluid...


I did note the barrier, hence the reason I rode the trail. If you saw that a road had been closed, and then one day, the barrier was down, would you drive down the road? I am pretty sure most people would. It's pretty *beep* simple if you ask me.

I won't say another word about Burchfield. EVER!
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Re: Burchfield is Closed to Bikes

Postby reidabel » December 1st, 2011, 12:45 am

I HOPE we will get the official opening sometime in the Spring ... and that we don't get a huge flood season that puts it back to mid-summer.
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