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Postby taxinjazz » September 7th, 2011, 12:40 pm

I just got a new custom
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Re: toe overlap on road bike

Postby SteveF » September 7th, 2011, 1:09 pm

taxinjazz wrote:I just got a new custom road bike that I build up myself and had a fit done at a well known local shop. Was told I would not have any toe overlap on front tire by the builder but I do. Is there anything I can do about this?


Two things you can do off the top of my head--live with it or ask the builder to fix it. There are advantages to both--live with it and you don't have to wait for the fix, but you have to get used to the TCO. Get it fixed and you have to wait for that to happen and it may effect the way the bike handles, but you don't have to adjust for the TCO.

A couple of my bikes have TCO and it's not often a big deal. Not that I'd mind if it wasn't there at all but it's not impossible to live with...

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Re: toe overlap on road bike

Postby jonw9 » September 7th, 2011, 1:41 pm

If "NO toe overlap" is what you requested, and paid for, yet you received a bike with toe overlap, then it seems like the solution would be to go back to the builder and explain you did not receive what you ordered and paid for.
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Re: toe overlap on road bike

Postby taxinjazz » September 7th, 2011, 2:02 pm

jonw9 wrote:If "NO toe overlap" is what you requested, and paid for, yet you received a bike with toe overlap, then it seems like the solution would be to go back to the builder and explain you did not receive what you ordered and paid for.


Not that I request
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Re: toe overlap on road bike

Postby c0nsumer » September 7th, 2011, 2:06 pm

taxinjazz wrote:
jonw9 wrote:If "NO toe overlap" is what you requested, and paid for, yet you received a bike with toe overlap, then it seems like the solution would be to go back to the builder and explain you did not receive what you ordered and paid for.


Not that I requested it but the builder was concerned about it and made an effort to build the bike so there would be no overlap because of the small frame size. My last bike also had overlap and I have to agree with Steve F, it would be nice if it weren't there. I do notice in turns and am concerned about falling over. Was wondering if there was anything else I could do becides going back to the builder. So I guess this is very common but maybe not a big deal.


How often do you actually turn sharply enough for toe overlap to be a problem?
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Re: toe overlap on road bike

Postby taxinjazz » September 7th, 2011, 2:25 pm

c0nsumer wrote:
taxinjazz wrote:
jonw9 wrote:If "NO toe overlap" is what you requested, and paid for, yet you received a bike with toe overlap, then it seems like the solution would be to go back to the builder and explain you did not receive what you ordered and paid for.


Not that I requested
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Re: toe overlap on road bike

Postby c0nsumer » September 7th, 2011, 2:39 pm

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c0nsumer wrote:
taxinjazz wrote:
jonw9 wrote:If "NO toe overlap" is what you requested, and paid for, yet you received a bike with toe overlap, then it seems like the solution would be to go back to the builder and explain you did not receive what you ordered and paid for.


Not that I requested it but the builder was concerned about it and made an effort to build the bike so there would be no overlap because of the small frame size. My last bike also had overlap and I have to agree with Steve F, it would be nice if it weren't there. I do notice in turns and am concerned about falling over. Was wondering if there was anything else I could do becides going back to the builder. So I guess this is very common but maybe not a big deal.


How often do you actually turn sharply enough for toe overlap to be a problem?


LOL, at the moment I am doing 20 mile rides 3 days a week and in my route I do turn a handful of sharper turns. Mostly because I ride from my house and it is in neighborhoods. Not ideal riding but it has to do at the moment. To be honest I hate my route. Now that you bring this up it is because of this route that notice the overlap. In years past with my old bike I hardly noticed this problem but I would drive to a better location to ride. Good Point!


Ah, that makes sense. I just had to ask because my wife has a really nice Townie which has terrible toe overlap for both her and I, but we only notice it when poking around in the parking lot by our condo. When actually out and riding it's not a problem at all.
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Re: toe overlap on road bike

Postby SteveF » September 7th, 2011, 3:16 pm

The best is a fixed gear with TCO--that will make a low speed turn just more exciting than anything!

I ride a smaller frame size too and I just went with proportionally smaller wheels. My latest custom was built to fit 650b fatties--fenders and all, no TCO...

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Re: toe overlap on road bike

Postby taxinjazz » September 7th, 2011, 3:28 pm

SteveF wrote:The best is a fixed gear with TCO--that will make a low speed turn just more exciting than anything!

I ride a smaller frame size too and I just went with proportionally smaller wheels. My latest custom was built to fit 650b fatties--fenders and all, no TCO...

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What a nice looking bike!
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Re: toe overlap on road bike

Postby taxinjazz » September 7th, 2011, 4:54 pm

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Re: toe overlap on road bike

Postby SteveF » September 8th, 2011, 8:43 am

taxinjazz wrote:What a nice looking bike! Yes, smaller wheels may be key. I will look into that. Quiring makes very nice frames! How do you like yours? Looks like a dream to ride!!!


Thanks, but I don't mean to steal your thread--just showing how smaller tires are a good option for smaller frames. (mine is a 54cm, BTW) It rides nice, though I've only been out on it twice. Just got it built up last weekend.

Have any pics of yours? Who was the builder?
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Re: toe overlap on road bike

Postby taxinjazz » September 8th, 2011, 4:15 pm

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Re: toe overlap on road bike

Postby SteveF » September 9th, 2011, 9:07 am

taxinjazz wrote:No worry. You didn't steal my thread. Asking ?'s is the best way to learn. I think my bike is meant to have 700c wheels on it, there already on the bike. Like I realized yearly in the post it's because of where I have been riding that I have noticing the problem. Soon I will have a new bike rack and won't have to ride from my house. I guess I could try the 650c smaller wheels and put the 700c on something else. I may look into it. You can never have to many bikes or bike parts for that matter. I'm sorry but I do not have any pics of my yet. What kind of riding do you do? That looks like a ride around town bike and I know it's not your only one. Most of the Quiring frames I have seen are mountian or cross bikes. I love the older style looking frames.


Some bikes can be converted to smaller wheels and some not so much. You have to look at bottom bracket height and clearances and brake reach. I'd talk with your builder about it. There's extensive info online about converting 700c-wheeled road bikes to 650b wheels to allow one to fit fatter tires and maybe fenders--just google "650b conversion," or something similar...

I just ride, I don't race--I road ride and trail ride and commute and run errands and just...ride. I like versatile bikes that allow me to "follow my nose." That's why I like fat tires on my road bikes, like the Quiring. If I'm out riding and find the road I'm on turns to dirt it doesn't even slow me down. Cut through a park on a mile or two of singletrack? No problem! potholes, cracked pavement, gravelly shoulder? Didn't even notice it...B-)

This bike was indeed a fair departure from Scott's usual stuff. He was excited to be working with lugs again!
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Re: toe overlap on road bike

Postby taxinjazz » September 12th, 2011, 6:59 am

For any of
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Re: toe overlap on road bike

Postby SteveF » September 26th, 2011, 7:41 am

taxinjazz wrote:For any of you that might have a similar problem. I was just refit for my bike and learned that the crankarm is to long for me. I'm sure that is going to solve the toe overlap problem. It's been trial and era and now I know.



Good call--that's worth a try.
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