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Poto: DTE Energy Foundation Trail (Waterloo)

Postby Todd Scott » October 20th, 2006, 2:26 pm

Post trail conditions and problem reports for the trails at Waterloo
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Postby dew » October 20th, 2006, 2:55 pm

I thought mtb-ing wasn't allowed at Waterloo, except for special permits like the TTC. Has the proposal gone forward to where we are now allowed to ride?
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Postby Todd Scott » October 20th, 2006, 2:58 pm

There is a five mile loop open to biking, but I hear it's not very good.

The DNR compiled a list for us of State Parks and Recreation Areas that have hunting and MTB trails. I went through the list and added the five trails that weren't already in the Trail Guide.
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Postby barrybs » October 20th, 2006, 3:41 pm

If you look at the Waterloo map posted in the trail guide section the bike trail is at the bottom toward the center near the intersection of Maute and Leach roads. I noticed it on a map a few years ago and got all excited and went down to ride it. It was pretty much unridable due to large trees down, sand, and postholes from horse traffic. It really is some beautiful terrain and probably has some potential if you could keep the horses out.

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Postby jajones » October 23rd, 2006, 6:54 pm

Posting a trail conditions section for Waterloo is misleading and shouldn't be done. First of all, the "five miles" of trail is nowhere near five miles. Second, it is totally unrideable for various reasons -- from lack of maintenance to horse impact that make this bridle trail unsuitable for biking. Third, it is not even signed and there is no proper access lot/trailhead to park.

Listing it on the trail conditions page will give mountain bikers the impression that there is viable trail open and rideable at Waterloo. If and when they venture out there, they will be confused and frustrated by the situation.

The DNR should be told that these trails are not viable, and current members of the agency should be educated on the politics behind why this section was "designated" open to mountain bike use as a "gotcha joke" by the former Unit Manager of Waterloo who was staunchly anti-bike. By catering to the DNR on this issue, the MMBA is making legitimate mountain bike access at Waterloo into a joke.
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Postby rmanzanares » July 17th, 2008, 2:46 pm

Would be nice if the DNR would go through and clear out the downed trees. Was off my bike every 100 meters or less in some places due to logs. Some were hopable, most weren't (for me.) The small loop is more ridable than the big one, but also had more horse...evidence. The big loop had plenty of sticker bushes at arm and leg level, but tires were fine. At one point we were riding in shoulder level grass, but that was kind of fun. Big hills up and down. Not as crowded as Pinkney but for obvious reasons. Trail is worth improving and would be a fun ride if the trail floor were clear.
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Re: Poto: Waterloo

Postby spwrozek » June 25th, 2009, 10:45 am

Is this trail a real trail or not? It looks like there is no place to park close to it... also why is it just inside the horse loop. I was thinking about trying it out since it is only a 10 mile drive down 94. Does anyone have any info on this other then posts from 3 years ago? The TG says that the Poto Chapter is looking to make significant improvements, what is up with that. Is it worth the 10 min drive to check out or no?
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Re: Poto: Waterloo

Postby MattRides » July 14th, 2010, 10:30 am

So has anyone been out to the Waterloo MTB trail recently? I am really curious. Unlike the previous reviewer, I have to drive over an hour to get to Waterloo, and it's not worth the hassle if the trail is still crap.
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Re: Poto: Waterloo

Postby spwrozek » July 14th, 2010, 10:51 am

It is uber crap. some people went and cut out the trees last year but it has been completely destroyed by horses. Really this thread should be closed as to not trick people into going there.
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Re: Poto: Waterloo

Postby jrshome » July 14th, 2010, 1:54 pm

spwrozek wrote:It is uber crap. some people went and cut out the trees last year but it has been completely destroyed by horses. Really this thread should be closed as to not trick people into going there.

+1 on this, no place to ride at Waterloo, my parents live right there and this is crap
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Re: Poto: Waterloo

Postby Knewbike » August 13th, 2012, 1:35 pm

Thought I'd try mountain biking for the 1st time in 15 years. I went here cause it is the closest to my house, and because I knew I'd be largely alone. Many large downed trees. I parked where the trail crosses on Maute rd. Signage doesn't even indicate bikes are allowed. All horse tracks. Not even any footprints let alone tire tracks. Signage all shot up. Difficult ride for 1st time back. Go if you are a masochist.
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Re: Poto: Waterloo

Postby jnwbiker » June 17th, 2016, 7:48 am

Now that the Grand Opening has happened on the new trail, should we start posting Waterloo (DTE Energy Foundation Trail) conditions here? I'm planning on checking out the new section on Sunday morning.

(It's interesting reading some of the history above...)

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Re: Poto: Waterloo

Postby DynoDon » June 20th, 2016, 3:58 pm

The trail is hard to find, no signs yet, its about 1/2 mile south of North Territorial Road, going south from N Territorial, turn right at the end of the first guard rail. Parking lot is located there. Trail is good for beginners, or as a warm up, my heart rate never went up, it just stayed the same, low.
There are different directions for different days of the week, the signs at the start of the trail will explain that, I was the only one that read it, the other people were all going the other way, good thing the sight lines are good, this may be a problem at some point.
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Re: Poto: Waterloo

Postby WishIcouldcatchmybreath » June 23rd, 2016, 9:06 am

Yes, please use this thread to post conditions about the new Waterloo / DTE Energy Foundation Trail. The name of this thread has been updated.
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Re: Poto: DTE Energy Foundation Trail (Waterloo Recreation A

Postby raptorTC » June 23rd, 2016, 4:33 pm

Just drove by and noticed that there are a whole lot of little orange flags around the entrance, likely as a way to mark it and make it more visible until something permanent goes up.

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