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by **Return of Crispy Creme** » February 2nd, 2003, 6:06 pm

Mr Sensitivity!

And the foot in mouth award goes to .............fisherider!

As a police officer/firefighter and parent I take offense to your remarks about someone doing a job and then not being responsible because they are a parent and hold a high risk occupation! As a parent we are not allowed to live a life? What kind of logic is that? Do you find that you say things alot before you actually think? The NASA remark was off as well.

by **fisherider** » February 2nd, 2003, 7:11 pm

Mr. Sensitivity.

Who's offended? Who's got thier panties in a bunch?

I only stated what I believe, I'm not trying to tell anyone else what to believe.

I believe a lot of widows and orphans rather have a live spouse/parent than a dead hero wannabe.

by **goerlich** » February 2nd, 2003, 8:19 pm

fisherider wrote: ...than a dead hero wannabe.

Even I am shocked that someone would generalize police officers, firefighters, pilots, etc... in such a way.

So how does your logic work? According to your logic only those who have chosen celabacy should choose these types of careers? What if you were impaled by a branch whilst riding your mountain bike? Oh no.... if you have kids you better go sell your bike ........... :lol:

by **fisherider** » February 2nd, 2003, 9:33 pm

goerlich,

The quote at the end of your post says a lot.

by **Return of Crispy Creme** » February 2nd, 2003, 11:04 pm

"Dead hero wanna-be" and I thought you couldn't come across as any more insensitive...you proved me wrong.

First off let me say that my goal when I go to work everyday is not to put out as many fires as I can...not arrest as many people as I can...not be a hero. My goal is to go home at the end of everyday. If someday I cannot because someone shot me or I die trying to save someone then it was meant to be. You can't go through life sheltered. I go out and do my job not to be a "hero" but becasue I enjoy helping people when they need it most. Everyone does their job for a reason. I actually enjoy mine.

If I had to.... I would lay down my life so that someone else could live. Its not my goal...but it may have to be done someday. If its fighting a fire trying to save someone, or getting in the line of fire to save an innocent life....whatever the case may be. I am sure that each of those astronauts family members knew the risk that they faced, as did the austronauts themselves. I know the risks that I face as does my family. And I am sure that if I should perish in my job duties then my son and wife and parents that I leave behind will be proud. They will be sad that I am gone. But at least they can say I died doing something that I love to do. "No greater gift can a man give, than to lay down his life for another"

You have several hero figures that are on the front lines everyday defending your life and many that have given thier life so that a genius like you can go on in your own little bubble. Here is to all the soldiers, firefighters, police officers, and all the parents..the biggest heroes of all

by **bike-raccoon** » February 3rd, 2003, 7:38 am

fisherider they do not spend bazilions of dollars on the space program in fact we get more out the the program that helps everyone out side of it. Why do you think they were doing 80 some experments up there. if the space program got the money from the stuff they develope they wouldn't have to be funded by us tax payers. and you may ask why they don't, because of it being a tax payer program they have to give what it gets to us. like new medicines, new medals for cars and BIKES, building materials,Etc. fisherider you thought when 9-11 happened it was in New York what was the big deal it wasn't here. and it was just a bunch of rich wall street people anyway who cares. you know you are just not worth it...

by **fisherider** » February 3rd, 2003, 8:30 am

I appreciate being told what I thought and felt.

Thank you.

I get it. It's OK to express an opinion as long as it agrees with yours. When someone's opinion differs it's time to go on the attack. Explain to me how your opinion is more valid than mine?

by **bike-raccoon** » February 3rd, 2003, 9:13 am

you don't get it do you...it's not the opinion that is in question, if you don't like the space program that's O.k if you don't like war thats o.k even if you hate the fire and police forces that is your opinion also. but the question is your attitude of callousness of those that do put there lives at stake for any of us. it may seem useless to you to go up in space to do what, float around, they risk there lives for that and spend money for that (NO) they do more than that. now did the astronauts risk there lives for us, from them we got Kevlar police use that, they gave us fire resistent materials, firemen benefit from that. yes you can in your opinion hate all kinds of stuff but saying the people who do these things for us even when we don't know they are doing them don't need to be put in the same category as hero wanna bees. suicide bombers think themselves heros and I have an opinion on that but some things are better left unsaid. express your opinions but some are better as I said left unspoken. freedom to express your opinion in this country, remember if it were not for those who took the risk, married with children, we couldn't even do that. express yes but with thought behind it. you wouldn't walk up to a person and say hay you are ugly and fat would you your opinion is there but saying it is better than expressing it.

by **calfzilla, aka KeithRiege** » February 3rd, 2003, 10:28 am

fisherider;
I respect your right to have an opinion, but my god man. How did you get so bitter? Give a little respect where respect is due! If it is your goal to become diss liked amongst the community, I beleive that you are on your way to great success. Is this realy what you want? After all these posts about family and risk I guess you will be selling your bikes and car as these are very risky activities for a person with a family to think about. :idea:

by **bike-raccoon** » February 3rd, 2003, 10:42 am

I ment thinking it is far better than expressing it because you are the only one who knows.

Website · by **hockeydaddy** » February 3rd, 2003, 12:29 pm

Alas FisherRider we have something this country is based on and that's the constitution. This document gives people like you the right to spew idiotic statments like the NASA one or your veiw of everyday heroes. Yes you do have the right to say these things and as you typed them you knew and expected the responses you would and did recieve. This is what makes people like you tick. I was a Detroit Cop for 15 years and had to listen to people like you spout of about eveything from Malice Green,to "Why ain't you out fighting crime instead of bothering us" and I had to treat them with the respect that they thought they deserved after spewing their so called comments, even though they wanted us to respond in a way that would justify their veiws of us being the brutal pigs that they thought we were. So you see you are no one special, you or your comments as a matter of fact you are the minority. So everyday as these everyday heroes strap on their guns,pick up their hoses and man their rigs there not allowed to pick and choose the calls they go on and who and who not to help because if that was the case you and people like you would be in a world of hurt. I'm sure some of these words are not going to be liked but as an American you owe those seven heroes the respect thet so strongly deserve that's what seperates them from the other people who left this world on saturday. Not to say those other lives were less important,it's just these seven were heroes to all of America.
Sorry for the ramble see ya on the trails. Peace

by **luv2mtb** » February 3rd, 2003, 1:15 pm

"A man who won't die for something is not fit to live."
-Martin Luther King, Jr.

by **Return of Crispy Creme** » February 3rd, 2003, 1:55 pm

Fisherider
I'll back up the last few posts. Its not your opinion that bothers me. Its the fact that your an insensitive *%&$^@$...and if your a parent I wouldn't go anywhere as that would be irresponsible...what if you were involved in an accident and injured or killed. What kind of parent would that make you?

Hockeydaddy..you feel my pain!

by **h2osnowfan** » February 3rd, 2003, 1:57 pm

Tough line, fish. You must be very proud that you are not ashamed to express an unpopular opinion. Never mind that it's full of ignorance and bitterness. You're being an *** and an ***'s opinion is just that. But that's just my opinion...I could be wrong.

by **Dan_Harrison** » February 3rd, 2003, 2:28 pm

... but Zero MTB content + namecalling = Basement.
Let's continue this discussion there, folks.
Dan

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