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Re: Western: Other trails

Postby ATBiker » May 4th, 2011, 6:07 pm

Rode Al Sabo today. Trail is nearly perfect, but the sand traps are setting up in the usual places as it dries out. A couple horses were there the other day. I didn't even know they were allowed, but did not have trouble with horse pies.
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Re: Western: Other trails

Postby papabrad » June 16th, 2011, 1:19 am

I'm moving over to the kzoo/matawann area and al sabo is one of the closest trails to me. Wanted to ask if anyone has tried to gain any ground with adding some freeride/technical aspects to the trail. Looking for emails/Phone numbers of individuals that have some jurisdiction over the area. Don't wanna rogue build

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Re: Western: Other trails

Postby LuckyCharm4x4 » June 24th, 2011, 11:50 pm

Anyone ridden Pando? What's it like, how many miles, what can someone expect? Any other trails you'd compare it to?
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Re: Western: Other trails

Postby blamp28 » June 25th, 2011, 7:23 am

Last I knew, this trail is only opened during events that are hosted. This is private property.
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Re: Western: Other trails

Postby Stumpy87 » July 25th, 2011, 8:09 pm

Not true, it is a park with multi-use trails. The trail isn't anything special, but it does have two decent hills. Some of the trail is actually riding on grass. It is worth a ride if you live in the area, otherwise not so much. Be careful as it is a multi-use trail and people do hike on the trails quite often.
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Re: Western: Other trails

Postby Mike_D » July 25th, 2011, 9:37 pm

Stumpy87 wrote:Not true, it is a park with multi-use trails. The trail isn't anything special, but it does have two decent hills. Some of the trail is actually riding on grass. It is worth a ride if you live in the area, otherwise not so much. Be careful as it is a multi-use trail and people do hike on the trails quite often.


This should probably be clarified/verified since the trail guide Pando still claims, "The Pando trails are closed at all time except during races."

[url]http://mmba.org/index.php?option=com_trailguide&task=trail&cid[]=46[/url]
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Re: Western: Other trails

Postby RickPlite » July 26th, 2011, 9:47 am

Stumpy87 wrote:Not true, it is a park with multi-use trails. The trail isn't anything special, but it does have two decent hills. Some of the trail is actually riding on grass. It is worth a ride if you live in the area, otherwise not so much. Be careful as it is a multi-use trail and people do hike on the trails quite often.


This is news to me. The wMMBA, Kisscross and Ada Bike tried to get Pando opened one day a week and that failed due to liability and archery target hunting. I suspect you just haven't been caught trespassing yet.
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Re: Western: Other trails

Postby AllMountin' » November 5th, 2011, 8:49 pm

Rode Al Sabo today. Did two loops, and was pretty impressed with how smooth and flowy this trail is. It's not technical, but a fun ride through a beautiful area. There is one tree down that can be ridden, but will hit your chainring. There is one terrific downhill out here that is super fun.

What's not so great here is that it is HUGELY popular for walkers and their unleashed dogs. Almost nobody follows the posted leash rules, which doesn't really bother me. The dog crap on the trail DOES bother me. There were two of us out there, and we both ended up with multiple patches of it on the tires.

Otherwise, things are leafy in the woods, but good riding.
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Re: Western: Other trails

Postby SSSparta » November 6th, 2011, 10:14 am

RickPlite wrote:
Stumpy87 wrote:Not true, it is a park with multi-use trails. The trail isn't anything special, but it does have two decent hills. Some of the trail is actually riding on grass. It is worth a ride if you live in the area, otherwise not so much. Be careful as it is a multi-use trail and people do hike on the trails quite often.


This is news to me. The wMMBA, Kisscross and Ada Bike tried to get Pando opened one day a week and that failed due to liability and archery target hunting. I suspect you just haven't been caught trespassing yet.


I'm sure it's still private property. My wife works with one of the family members, and I know for a fact that they're out there hunting this weekend. I've asked her to talk to him about letting me use the trails during the summer, but she hasn't yet.
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Re: Western: Other trails

Postby lampenj » December 24th, 2011, 1:52 pm

For anyone in Holland looking to get out but not spend all day driving, Riley Trails is in the best condition its going to be in for riding right now. Once it snows it will be off limits for the skiers, but right now all the sand on the South end is firm making it all ride-able. The rest of the trail is firm with no mud. It was a fantastic morning this morning with the light dusting of snow last night (not enough to cover the trail). I was able to map a 6.45 mile route without crossing or doubling back on any trail by being able to utilize several of the Southern routes. If you haven't ever been out to Riley, go with someone who has as the spider web of trails can be confusing. Also make sure you're mindful of the other trail users out there (runners, hikers, dog walkers, etc.). Otherwise, its just a nice place to spend some time in the woods.
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Re: Western: Other trails

Postby Big_Port » March 16th, 2012, 6:43 am

Ken-O-Sha park trail is in really good shape.....a few damp spots but not enough to cause ruts or damage. Was deserted last night.....not a soul on the trail.
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Re: Western: Other trails

Postby StillBill » June 27th, 2012, 10:12 pm

...general question: Why is Pigeon Creek listed as a private trail on the WMMBA website? It's a County Park. Maybe it's a new public park?
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Re: Western: Other trails

Postby raymears » September 4th, 2013, 10:57 pm

Is there any information about the Ken-O-Sha trail? I see where it is on the trail list, but is there a map of the trails? The Facebook page doesn't seem to have any useful information (at least that I can find).
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