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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby Flyer 130 » July 9th, 2012, 4:15 pm

Thanks Jake and MLKuhl Thursday night might be the only night this we for me as I'm taking the bike back to work to ride Custer tommorow and Wednesday. I should have my new bike when I get home from work on Thursday...and why do have to work this weekend
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby Laser4G63 » July 10th, 2012, 9:25 am

How many people ride these trails? The reason I ask is because I rarely see anyone riding there. When I first discovered this trail, there were times I would see 3 or 4 (or more) riders on them. Now, I have the whole trail to myself at times. I may see 1 person, but that's it. I may be riding at the wrong time, but this is even on the weekends. My guess is that I have over 600 miles riding in Sharp Park this year since this trail is only a mile from my house. I would just love to see more people riding there.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby jake » July 10th, 2012, 9:48 am

I think the majority of the people that ride this trail are not on this forum. I know all of the people who I ride with here in town do not check this forum.

Everytime I have ridden out there this year I have passed at least one other person. I know of about 20 people who ride here although it may be infrequent, because most of us will go somewhere else to ride on the weekend.

I doubt the trail will ever be anything more than just for the locals. I can't see to many people coming here to ride when there are so many other great trails with in a short drive. I can make it to ton of other trails in less than an hour which are a lot more fun to ride.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby MLKuhl » July 10th, 2012, 11:08 am

Yeah, I pretty much feel the same way Jake does. With Custer and Poto less then an hour away and the fact that I only get out about once a week I will drive to those places where the trails are properly maintained by mmba...and they do a great job. If I could get out more im sure I would throw sharp park into the mix but right now thats just not in the cards.

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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby aarontriton » July 10th, 2012, 11:46 am

ME and my 8 yr old son hit the trails at ella 2 to 3 times a week . and custer about twice a month it is nice to have something close my son loves to hit the trails out there. but he is always asking me when we are going to the fort. This Thursday i am taking him to Poto. I have been teaching my son to help pick up sticks off the trail.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby jake » July 11th, 2012, 5:40 am

http://mmba.org/library/maps/ellasharp/ellasharp.gif

Here is the gps map of the park. It's better than the CCC map with the stars, but the trail is so close to itself in several spots even this is not completely accurate, but it's a little better representation.

At my last meeting with the park it was mentioned that they were going to change the main sign to the park and actually add the trail map to it, but that was years ago and nothing was ever done. Everything with this park has to be approved my the board of trustees and Jackson seems to be really against having anything that actually gets people outside to do anything.

I was once told I couldn't even fix a washed out section of trail with a reroute without having it approved first. It's funny because I bet none of these people who make decisions could even find the trail.

My favorite part of all meetings with the park though had to be when we (MMBA) were told we could not alter the trail in any way because it was a beginner family friendly trail and they didn't want additional features that people would not be able to ride. This trail would be one of the worst places in the area to introduce someone to mtb riding. They also made a comment about the dirt jump area and how they know it's there but choose to ignore it.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby Laser4G63 » July 11th, 2012, 10:22 am

jake wrote:Jackson seems to be really against having anything that actually gets people outside to do anything.


Isn't that the truth. I advocated to get a portion of the rail trail repaved and was met with a lot of resistance. It did get repaved, but it's still sad that this area is like this.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby jake » July 11th, 2012, 10:28 am

Craig, I have used the rail trail a ton but I think that section and what the city paid was a waste of money. I won't ride my bike on that section anymore. I have had way to many bad encounters out there. They should have planned a little better when they decided where to put the trail. Now I will go out of my way to go around that section and jump in at 4th st and then continue out to the end. I ride the small section of trail inside the old prison as well and unfortunately the section between North st and Argyle is much like ride through the south side.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby Laser4G63 » July 11th, 2012, 11:14 am

This city wastes so much money on useless projects it's not funny. The way I see it is with the city taxes we pay at least this would be something that both my wife and I can benefit from. The trail is 1/4 mile from our house and is the main way for me to either get to Sharp or Concord.

I guess I am fortunate because I haven't had any bad encounters (I assume you're talking about with people). Also, not sure what you mean by planned on where they put the trail. It follows an old rail road bed. Not sure where else they could have put it, to be honest. The way I see it is, with the way this city is, I think we're fortunate to have a paved trail there at all.

This city is really going nowhere and once my wife and I get our degrees, unless something miraculous happens between now and then, I plan on moving out of the area simply because there isn't much for this city to offer people. The city needs to reinvent itself and try and lure fresh thinking minds here, which might bring jobs in the process. A lot of people are just going to move to Ann Arbor because that city has more to offer. This may mean trying to offer more in the way of healthy living and when most projects like that get met with resistance, those people will simply move elsewhere. Jackson County is ranked among the unhealthiest counties in this state. And you can see that when you walk around Meijer, Walmart, Kroger, or the malls.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby MLKuhl » July 11th, 2012, 12:56 pm

I agree Craig, the city just like the trails are probably never going to change...at least not in my lifetime. All you have to do is read the comment section on mlive after any type of positive story to see how alot of the people think here.

However, having said all that it still surprises me that we do have the falling water trail and am very thankful for it.A lot of communities don't have something like that.

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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby reidabel » July 13th, 2012, 1:37 pm

What and where is the falling water trail?

I'm thinking about taking my daughter on a trip to Jackson to visit the museum and ride the trail, but we've never been there before. Any tips? The trail is not advanced, is it? Are there any stunts? Is it safe to park in the museum lot with bikes on the back for an extended period while we're inside? Should I be concerned about the bikes? The area looks pretty from Google Maps, and I'm guessing it's safe ...
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby jake » July 13th, 2012, 2:39 pm

I think your bikes will be fine while your in the Museum.

There are no stunts the trails have several roots, lots of washed out places and are tight and twisty in spots. I wouldn't consider them advanced at all, but I wouldn't consider them kid friendly either unless she is use to riding.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby jake » July 13th, 2012, 2:42 pm

Oh, forgot... Falling Waters Trail is a paved path (rail trail) from Jackson to Concord.

If you parked at Ella Sharp just head a block North through the school parking lot and you will see the trail head west. If you go east that will take you downtown Jackson and a less desirable route.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby reidabel » July 13th, 2012, 2:44 pm

jake wrote:I think your bikes will be fine while your in the Museum.


Assuming they're locked, I imagine :D

Thanks, Jake.
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Re: Mid-State: Ella Sharp

Postby MLKuhl » July 13th, 2012, 2:57 pm

Without a doubt, lock them. For the most part pretty safe but there are some shady characters that pass through now and then.
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