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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby ibisman » September 11th, 2010, 7:42 pm

Sorry, but those big wheels are heavy and slow to turn in. But I do see the skid marks from you guys sliding before the corners. Nice. Ride what you want..don't fall for the advertisements its a marketing ploy like tubeless tires. lets see how they hold up off 6' drops..I'm just say'n.
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby Gfish29 » September 12th, 2010, 12:27 am

Here, I was just trying to point out how having the larger wheel offers the greater traction and stability, therefore no slipping and pulling a lot faster through the corners without all the braking. If you thought I skid through every corner and then accelerate than you're just being ridiculous...if anything you should have pointed out where 29r has the disadvantage, which would be in accelerating a larger wheel from a stop.
I carry momentum through Hickory (Garmin player supports this, only dips to around 8mph or so) and yes, I also run tubeless at about 24-26 PSI. The tires are like they are hooked to a rail along the corners and I wouldn't hesitate taking them off a 6' drop either, dude.
But hey Ibisman, stick with what you know and enjoy your scenic 38 minute lap.
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby ibisman » September 13th, 2010, 1:51 pm

listen dude, its either a newbie slidin the tires before the turns OR a 29'er who finally gets up to speed and then whoopsie! a corner and locks up the brakes. As for the scenic 38 minute laps lets see you do that when you are my age AND on a 34 lb freeride bike.I have tried a clown bike for your information...but the clown shoes kept gittin in the way. Ride on, milky (oops thats before your time). :roll:
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby Apps » September 13th, 2010, 1:57 pm

Hickory isn't a problem on a 29er....if you use super wide bars, it would be an issue on any bike as wheel diameter makes no difference to bar width! I currently run some FSA XC 190 bars at 630mm wide and they fit through everything fine, including the rideable V tree by the red house. I know Dave isn't a big fan of big wheels but to each their own...I love my big wheels for SE Michigan....


Don't just assume the skidding is some 29er riding person. We get a lot of locals on the trails on Huffy's and Murray's. In fact most 29er riders are more experienced riders who have upgraded from 26" wheels so I would suspect that they aren't the skidder's out there...Not too many newbies walk in an LBS and pick up a $1500+ bike

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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby ColorVoyeur » September 14th, 2010, 3:27 pm

Ibis, is that a pinkbike measurement on the drops? (if not, where are these drops and when are we going to session them)
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby ibisman » September 15th, 2010, 5:36 pm

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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby Spinwheel » September 15th, 2010, 10:38 pm

29er, 26, disk, v, single pd, 8, 9 10 whatever. Just ride and respect the trail and folks you meet out there...

I can't stand seeing all skid marks either, but hey, *beep* happens.
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby jwhitey » September 19th, 2010, 6:31 pm

Gfish, That's cool how you record all that data and can post it like that.
One question though. I did a couple laps today and the laps I do are 6.3ish miles. Not sure what they call that loop but I'm thinking of where the cone is, you might skip that section? It's an easy one turn to just ride on by. I'm not that familiar with the trail but I manage to ride the same loop each time I think.
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby Gfish29 » September 19th, 2010, 11:19 pm

The Garmin is not very accurate for distance in the singletrack...cuts corners it seems due to the twisting trail. If you zoom up on it, you can see in the red that I do cover the entire thing and there are some angles where the trail is cut. I do go past the orange cone, nothing is skipped. The trail is longer than the Garmin says it is. I use this device primarily for timing which it does very well by recording the start and stop of each lap.
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby Apps » September 20th, 2010, 8:34 am

Depending on the sampling rate, a GPS can cut a lot of trail out. Especially really tight ones like The Hick.....
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby jwhitey » September 20th, 2010, 9:22 pm

That seems to throw your average speed off too. You would have been going faster that 9-9.5 mph it you did 6.3 mile laps.
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby ibisman » September 24th, 2010, 8:01 pm

No, the clown wheels are so big they don't spin as fast so the milage is off and so is the speed except in the mind of the owner. And no, you cannot "session' at my trails. If we tell you weenies if would be over run with all kinds of off the wall tree huggers in tye-dyed shirts and birken-stock. Leave the jumps and drops to the Freeride bikes and we will leave the parades to you.
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby ibisman » September 24th, 2010, 10:56 pm

Everyone slows down as the get older...so I would like to match my times with speedy at 1. the Iceman,2. Ore To Shore, 3, Pando, 4. Boyne, 5. Ithica, 6. Hanson Hills, 7.etc,
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Re: Metro South: Commerce 9/25/10

Postby ibisman » September 25th, 2010, 11:10 am

anyway...back to trail conditions. Several trees down, I managed to drag one off 1/2 mile in and cut two smaller ones but there is a monster oak tree down around 3.9 or so at the off camber switchback next to the road where they throw bottles and they break on the trail....I can come back Monday with my chainsaw if no one else can get to it.
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby b_b » September 25th, 2010, 11:31 am

You guys are cracking me up, so keep it going. :) Well you got my interest and I'm gonna have to go see what I can do on my 26 fs turd on this trail, but I'll only post my times if they're faster than gfish lol. Hey gfish what can you do on Maybury, Pontiac or other trails? Oh and I think rider ability might also have some affect on lap times. :)
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