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Re: Metro South: Commerce 2/12/10

Postby ibisman » February 12th, 2010, 12:28 pm

Looked at it today and had a hard time parking! Snow is still too deep to ride but I will ride Sunday, one way or another.Image
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Re: Metro South: Commerce 2/12/10

Postby Steve_Balogh » February 12th, 2010, 9:30 pm

ibisman wrote:Looked at it today and had a hard time parking! Snow is still too deep to ride but I will ride Sunday, one way or another.Image



Got a fresh chain on my Fatbike, plan on riding early tomorrow morning, provided I can park, and my body has reacclimated to Michigan winter after being in Australia. Looking forward to it, this winter was nothing like last year, about time for some serious snow.
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby ibisman » February 12th, 2010, 10:20 pm

Please do ride. I need a fat tire to break the trail. Let us know how it went.Dave
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby Steve_Balogh » February 13th, 2010, 7:23 pm

Slow ride, but I did the entire trail. I did retry that one long hill several times, but even on my last attempt, I had trouble climbing. A bit over three hours just to do one lap. I did have several areas I could ride long distances without stopping, but one area on the other side of the bridge had me ratchet pedaling on the off camber ledge. I had deep powder, and it snowed the entire ride, but no accumulation. Many places the snow was untouched, which I like when it's deep powder. The snowmobile tracks in some areas actually made riding worse, which I expect with this type of snow. I did ride more than what I walked, but it was a slow ride so I didn't get a chance to do another lap. I did ride a second time about 100-200 yards from the trailhead just to see if i could ride faster and get another lap, but no dice. Watch for ice under the snow near the end of the ride, studs are not necessary but having spikes in your shoes will help if you end up walking a short steep hill there.
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby ibisman » February 14th, 2010, 10:21 am

Thanks for the info...I will try to get out there today or tomorrow. At least it quiet though, right? :lol:
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby Steve_Balogh » February 14th, 2010, 6:40 pm

ibisman wrote:Thanks for the info...I will try to get out there today or tomorrow. At least it quiet though, right? :lol:


So quiet I could hear the snowflakes drop 8)
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby ibisman » February 17th, 2010, 2:59 pm

Ok, I tried ol Hickory Glen today and it was not a good time. First there is still no where to park so I got some speed up and pushed my way into the parking spot and...got stuck. So, after a few minutes of rocking back and forth and some digging, I backed out and parked back by the big red building. It must have snowed again because Steve's big tire tracks were almost totally gone. All there was were foot prints of people,dogs,and deer. I went out for about 1 1/2 hours and got alittle over 4 miles in before hitting the cement bike path back top the car. Whew! I will try again Friday. Come on , the more that nride it the better. P.S. don't leave the trail in the winter....I got lost so fast it wasn't funny. And came across my own tracks several times. :roll:
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby Steve_Balogh » February 17th, 2010, 8:28 pm

ibisman wrote:Ok, I tried ol Hickory Glen today and it was not a good time. First there is still no where to park so I got some speed up and pushed my way into the parking spot and...got stuck. So, after a few minutes of rocking back and forth and some digging, I backed out and parked back by the big red building. It must have snowed again because Steve's big tire tracks were almost totally gone. All there was were foot prints of people,dogs,and deer. I went out for about 1 1/2 hours and got alittle over 4 miles in before hitting the cement bike path back top the car. Whew! I will try again Friday. Come on , the more that nride it the better. P.S. don't leave the trail in the winter....I got lost so fast it wasn't funny. And came across my own tracks several times. :roll:


Yes - I remember all of the hiker tracks going everywhere. I almost got lost on the other side of the bridge I believe where there's a manhole cover in the trail. One set of tracks followed the trail, then took short cuts, then went out in the middle of nowhere.

I should be getting some new tires on my Fatbike - with the new Surly "Larry" front tire. At the Arrowhead 135 in Minnesota a couple weeks ago the top finishers all had Larry's and totally smoked the field. Endomorphs make somewhat of a squirrely front tire at high speeds in the snow. So far i'm hearing the Larry is working wonders for Fatbikers up in Alaska. So I'm pretty stoked to see how well it cuts through the deep stuff, hopefully the snow doesn't melt too much by Sunday - I work in Taylor and the snow is starting to melt pretty good at Metro Airport. Somewhat glad to hear my tracks got covered. Maybe this weekend I'll be doing laps like a couple weeks ago.
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby ibisman » February 18th, 2010, 9:33 am

Hey what are the sizes of those tires? I ride a couple of freeride bikes so they should be able to handle a tire up to 2.5 or more. Thanks Dave :lol:
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby Steve_Balogh » February 18th, 2010, 11:36 pm

ibisman wrote:Hey what are the sizes of those tires? I ride a couple of freeride bikes so they should be able to handle a tire up to 2.5 or more. Thanks Dave :lol:


Larry's are 3.8" and endomorphs are 3.7; but both say 26X4" because some people use 100MM wide rims on their Fatbikes which will spread these tires out to 4".

There's a few people out there that buy a fork big enough for these tires and rims and put them on their 29r's. even though the tire fits a 26" rim, it's a bit over 29". More like having a 30-Incher bike.

Picked them up today, going on tomorrow, hopefully the snow lasts.

Prior to this bike, I used to use a 2.5 Specialised Pinnit Pro DH tire, worked really well until things got really deep. I still have that tire.

Another option with a freeride bike - Turners work well for this - is use the Surly Large Marge 65MM rim with a DH tire, like the Kenda 2.7. It just fits in the rear.
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby ibisman » February 19th, 2010, 2:14 pm

Ok, I soent a little over two hours out here this morning , I went over parts of the trail I did Tuesday and some parts two or three times to packi it down. I also rode the snow mobile tracks all over the place... for about 10 miles total. get out the and pack it down! :lol:
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby Bruck » February 19th, 2010, 4:19 pm

I may try Sat or Sun to get out there...

I can't decide if I should try to ride the Hick or do the dirt roads out by Highland... the dirt roads will be a muddy mess midday, so maybe I talked myself into the Hick.. hummmmm.... Hick at sunrise... ground may still be frozen and not slushy... might be perfect or might be slick as heck...

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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby Bruck » February 19th, 2010, 4:24 pm

ibisman wrote:Ok, I soent a little over two hours out here this morning , I went over parts of the trail I did Tuesday and some parts two or three times to packi it down. I also rode the snow mobile tracks all over the place... for about 10 miles total. get out the and pack it down! :lol:


Ibisman, are the packed down parts at the beginning? Before the first exit on the blacktop?
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby ibisman » February 19th, 2010, 7:59 pm

I did several sections over. The last one after the floating bridge coming toward the baseball field, and from the start I did it over again too.
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Re: Metro South: Commerce

Postby Steve_Balogh » February 20th, 2010, 6:19 pm

I did one full lap minus the short ridge switchback at the far end of the park. I found my tracks from last week untouched in the loop by the second large bridge. I did two laps there, pretty well packed down now. After my lap, i realized I missed a section by the cell tower, so I went back out and did that one. Then I experimented with my video camera on the first mile or so from the trailhead. So the start of the trail is pretty flat. I probably rode it seven times back and forth. I also found another section completely untouched, that turned out to be a serious hike a bike adventure, glad it wasn't too long. There's one part of the trail where two loops come withn twenty feet of each other, and you see a MTB sign for the other side. Looks like a hiker thought that's the way the trail went, and cut across. several bike tracks follwed that guys lead, and a whole 1/4 mile of traill was left untouched. That was a bit tough also as it's mostly all uphill and the snow was deep in some parts.

The new Surly Larry tire up front really kicks butt. My fatbike held lines I've never been able to do before. Even in deep slow sections I didn't expend as much energy as I normally would.
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