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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby Paul_D » September 15th, 2011, 12:23 pm

Does backwards mean running Dragonball Run so it ends at the new log ride where Serentity also ends?

If so, thats the way we have been running it, then shooting into Swamp Thing from there. Great route.

I am confused about when to run the section that goes around the pond, up the hill with the rubber mat. and gives you a few downhill options.
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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby jonw9 » September 15th, 2011, 12:31 pm

Paul_D wrote:Does backwards mean running Dragonball Run so it ends at the new log ride where Serentity also ends?

If so, thats the way we have been running it, then shooting into Swamp Thing from there. Great route.

I am confused about when to run the section that goes around the pond, up the hill with the rubber mat. and gives you a few downhill options.


Correct. It is in reference to old direction when the river was on your right. Backwards is river on your left.
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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby reidabel » September 15th, 2011, 8:48 pm

Paul_D wrote:I am confused about when to run the section that goes around the pond, up the hill with the rubber mat. and gives you a few downhill options.


That section didn't make it into the advanced MTB loop, as far as I am aware. For a while, you could make a nice loop by doing Swamp Thing By The River, then heading South on the beginner trail and doing the Berm Trail, then going up the hill you refer to behind the fishing dock, then to the lot and out to ride Swamp Thing in the previous direction. However, now that hill is basically for when you are riding around on trails you haven't seen in a while.

Is anybody riding the center line on Hansen's Be-Bop, the one that has a 2 or 3-foot drop-off? It looks like nothing compared to what we see on YouTube, but I bet you have to do something about getting your front tire up and off the edge, or you'll nose-dive and quite possibly get injured ... maybe somebody can show me sometime? I bet you and Steve do it regularly ...
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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby pfox90 » September 15th, 2011, 9:10 pm

My buddy does the second line. Right now I won't touch the thing a lot of it is rutted out. He just gets the speed built up and lifts the front end.. I think it's about getting to a fast enough speed to get your back tire off the stunt when you leave it in the front, more than anything.
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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby AllMountin' » September 15th, 2011, 10:30 pm

Does the lead up to the middle line allow you to run it at speed now? I know for a while there, the first part was missing and the only way to mount it was to start up the left line and transfer on to the section with the drop where they were a couple inches apart. At the time, it could only be run slowly, which is how I ride it. I personally ride off of it in first gear (middle ring) and hold a wheelie until the rear drops off the end. I'm pretty sure I do it from the standing position, but it probably won't matter as long as you don't land sitting. ;-) Pain would ensue...

Obviously- practicing off of a smaller drop is a smart idea. If you drop the front down too soon, an endo is virtually guaranteed.

I prefer either of the right two lines to the left. The left is probably the easiest, but somehow it's the one I run most poorly at slow speed.
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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby reidabel » September 15th, 2011, 10:38 pm

Hmm ... reminds me of something that may be the same idea - I've ridden with a guy named Todd a couple of times now, just running into him on the trail out there. Tall, no helmet, (purple car I think), rides the stunts. He rode the Serenity Stunt and instead of coming off the drop by letting his front wheel go directly down to the ground, he basically did a wheelie off the edge to keep the front tire up long enough for the back tire to come off the drop so that both of them would come down together. Maybe I'll practice it on some lower spots like the Serenity stunt first.
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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby reidabel » September 15th, 2011, 10:46 pm

Wrote the previous post before seeing AllMountin's ...

AllMountin' wrote:Does the lead up to the middle line allow you to run it at speed now? I know for a while there, the first part was missing and the only way to mount it was to start up the left line and transfer on to the section with the drop where they were a couple inches apart.


That middle line entry was very wobbly in the past, I wouldn't trust it, though I'm not sure what it's like now.

AllMountin' wrote:Obviously- practicing off of a smaller drop is a smart idea. If you drop the front down too soon, an endo is virtually guaranteed.

Yep, don't want to do that - that's how I got hurt before. I'll practice the wheelie thing down low.

AllMountin' wrote:I prefer either of the right two lines to the left. The left is probably the easiest, but somehow it's the one I run most poorly at slow speed.

For me, the left is easiest slow, and I got dumped on my head the first time I tried it because I didn't know what I was doing. I tried going fast and seated and nose-dived. I like the right line, and for me it works best going faster. Since you mentioned taking the turn to the left on it, I've tried it with some success lately.
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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby geardaddy37 » September 16th, 2011, 4:43 pm

if it's the stunt I thik you guys are talking about I just do it static and let my front drop off it, I just lean way back with my seat almost in my crotch area...weight over the back tire so I don't flip. We should rebuild that in the spring. close to the parking lot and probably wouldn't take much...yes I would help ... :)
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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby reidabel » September 16th, 2011, 5:22 pm

You might be referring to the leftmost line, that's how I ride that one also. But the center line three feet to the right of it has a bigger drop, I don't know if it would be possible to do that without getting dumped on our heads. Maybe, I'll line the bike up to see what the position looks like next time I'm out there.

I am SO itching to start on that section, I've PM'ed Jeff, but he's busy with other things. I am coming up with ideas to avoid having a 10-foot drop off to the side, because I don't know that we could build a railing that would support a (falling) person's weight and still allow room to ride. I'm full of plans on this one, I actually titled my PM to him "Dibs" because I don't want anybody else to work on it! But co-workers are always good! Do you want to go scout it out with me? I have a sick daughter at home and a wife that's out of town, but if she's feeling better tomorrow or Sunday ...
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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby rvd » September 16th, 2011, 5:44 pm

I gather you are talking about stunts/lines on Hanson's Bebob, but where is that on this map?
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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby AllMountin' » September 16th, 2011, 6:34 pm

It's not labeled on that map.

I'm not sure if you are simply pointing that out, or if you don't know which section it is?

If the latter, it is represented by the dotted line that starts just to right of the word "Riverbend" on the map, and runs towards the main Burchfield entrance/trailhead.
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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby reidabel » September 16th, 2011, 8:16 pm

Without referencing the map, to get to Hansen's Bebop, from the Riverbend parking lot, go to the fence above the river and turn right (North) towards the main Burchfield park. The first trail on the right that says advanced and allows you to enter, is the one, probably only 50 yards away from the stairs that lead to the river. Follow it in a couple of hundred yards to get to the stunt area. I assume it was placed close to the lot for easy ambulance access ;-)
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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby rvd » September 16th, 2011, 8:56 pm

AllMountin' wrote:It's not labeled on that map.
I'm not sure if you are simply pointing that out, or if you don't know which section it is?
If the latter, it is represented by the dotted line that starts just to right of the word "Riverbend" on the map, and runs towards the main Burchfield entrance/trailhead.

I didn't know which section. Following your description I realize that it is where I broke my wrist at the start of the summer.
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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby reidabel » September 16th, 2011, 9:18 pm

Yikes! How did it happen? I went over the handlebars and landed on my shoulder when I nosedived the line to the left, and though I had dislocated that same shoulder about a year earlier (not biking), no damage was done beyond a big scrape.
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Re: Mid-State: Burchfield

Postby TenSpeed » September 16th, 2011, 9:45 pm

Would love to head up a fix of that first stunt on Hansen's. I have a fantastic idea for it.
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