r21954 wrote:Santa its time for you to step down. If you want to pm me fine. You are responsible for control of your bike and self. If you dont know and cant see under the leaves the rider needs to use caution not blame the conditions. Everyone else is riding the same trail. You are free to pm me.
Your argument is all well and good, until an un-natural trail bed is hidden under leaves.
I don't need to step anywhere.
I agree with TurboToad, it will bed down and become a non issue, but right now, it's an issue that sent my unexperienced friend over the bars. He was not expecting the trail surface to change from leaf covered hardpack to leaf covered marbles, and why should he?
It was an unexpected surprise for myself as well, I didn't crash, but loose gravel under the leaves was not something to be expected.
Next time I'll do a full coursewalk before I ride.