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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby wingzz » June 6th, 2011, 7:45 am

just because it was worse in the past is no reason to excuse the fact the it would be nice if A) people would wait till it dries up before riding the pines or B) they would just ride through the middle and not ride around the mud creating a huge mud pit, and C) if the people that did the damage were the ones coming out to fix it but we all know that doesn't happen very often
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby Trail_Warrior » June 6th, 2011, 7:52 am

wingzz wrote:just because it was worse in the past is no reason to excuse the fact the it would be nice if A) people would wait till it dries up before riding the pines or B) they would just ride through the middle and not ride around the mud creating a huge mud pit, and C) if the people that did the damage were the ones coming out to fix it but we all know that doesn't happen very often


Exactly wingzz, many aspects of the stony trail have developed quite nicely so just because it was bad in previous years doesn't make it okay to continue the same path. No problem can be solved from the same level of consiousness which created it.

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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby dirt » June 6th, 2011, 11:30 am

wingzz wrote:just because it was worse in the past is no reason to excuse the fact the it would be nice if A) people would wait till it dries up before riding the pines or B) they would just ride through the middle and not ride around the mud creating a huge mud pit, and C) if the people that did the damage were the ones coming out to fix it but we all know that doesn't happen very often


Since you seemed to be unable to discern what I was saying, I was NOT saying that it should be ridden before it's dried up. What I WAS saying, in response to comments about how bad it is, is that the current conditions don't even come close to how bad the pines used to get.
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby wingzz » June 6th, 2011, 12:41 pm

dirt wrote:
wingzz wrote:just because it was worse in the past is no reason to excuse the fact the it would be nice if A) people would wait till it dries up before riding the pines or B) they would just ride through the middle and not ride around the mud creating a huge mud pit, and C) if the people that did the damage were the ones coming out to fix it but we all know that doesn't happen very often


Since you seemed to be unable to discern what I was saying, I was NOT saying that it should be ridden before it's dried up. What I WAS saying, in response to comments about how bad it is, is that the current conditions don't even come close to how bad the pines used to get.


yes after 9 years we are starting to see some improvement out there but for the most part we just seem to be moving the mud pits from one spot to another, but as you said it is improving
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby dirt » June 6th, 2011, 1:37 pm

wingzz wrote:
dirt wrote:
wingzz wrote:just because it was worse in the past is no reason to excuse the fact the it would be nice if A) people would wait till it dries up before riding the pines or B) they would just ride through the middle and not ride around the mud creating a huge mud pit, and C) if the people that did the damage were the ones coming out to fix it but we all know that doesn't happen very often


Since you seemed to be unable to discern what I was saying, I was NOT saying that it should be ridden before it's dried up. What I WAS saying, in response to comments about how bad it is, is that the current conditions don't even come close to how bad the pines used to get.


yes after 9 years we are starting to see some improvement out there but for the most part we just seem to be moving the mud pits from one spot to another, but as you said it is improving


The long term plan is to finally force the muddy spots onto the double track, then let the park deal with it. :wink:
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby mtbike2350 » June 8th, 2011, 10:30 pm

Trails are getting pretty dry now. Instead of mud, we need to contend with loose sand :? I did have an issue on a 2 track between 22 headed toward 23. The steep downhill is heavily rutted from the rain runoff. It's hard enough to slow down on that hill, let alone avoid a rutt at high speed without getting your front tire caught in it. :x I think the park needs to smooth it up a bit there since I am assuming 2 track is the parks responsibility.
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby c0nsumer » June 8th, 2011, 10:32 pm

mtbike2350 wrote:Trails are getting pretty dry now. Instead of mud, we need to contend with loose sand :? I did have an issue on a 2 track between 22 headed toward 23. The steep downhill is heavily rutted from the rain runoff. It's hard enough to slow down on that hill, let alone avoid a rutt at high speed without getting your front tire caught in it. :x I think the park needs to smooth it up a bit there since I am assuming 2 track is the parks responsibility.


That spot has had a rut down the center as long as I've been riding. I find you just have to expect it and be appropriately careful.

It's even more interesting when it's rutted but leaf filled.
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby bh357 » June 8th, 2011, 10:41 pm

c0nsumer wrote:
mtbike2350 wrote:Trails are getting pretty dry now. Instead of mud, we need to contend with loose sand :? I did have an issue on a 2 track between 22 headed toward 23. The steep downhill is heavily rutted from the rain runoff. It's hard enough to slow down on that hill, let alone avoid a rutt at high speed without getting your front tire caught in it. :x I think the park needs to smooth it up a bit there since I am assuming 2 track is the parks responsibility.


That spot has had a rut down the center as long as I've been riding. I find you just have to expect it and be appropriately careful.


Either stay to the right of the rut (can be a bit loose up top), or if you start to the left then hop the rut at speed (faster line). I agree with c0nsumer, the rut develops every summer.
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby Ricky Billy » June 13th, 2011, 7:49 am

Rode stoney for first time yesterday afternoon. It was alot of fun. keeps you on your toes.
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby chong » June 13th, 2011, 9:30 am

Trail was in good shape yesterday. Couple of soft spots in the pines, but we rode straight through them and didn't come away with any mud. That widowmaker on the roller coaster needs to go. I scraped my back on the bottom of it trying to ride under. Thankfully that's on a bit of an uphill section.
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby wingzz » June 13th, 2011, 10:00 am

chong wrote:Trail was in good shape yesterday. Couple of soft spots in the pines, but we rode straight through them and didn't come away with any mud. That widowmaker on the roller coaster needs to go. I scraped my back on the bottom of it trying to ride under. Thankfully that's on a bit of an uphill section.


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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby chong » June 13th, 2011, 1:08 pm

Be careful. The pictures don't do the thing justice, its pretty huge and looks like it will come down in a heap!
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby wingzz » June 13th, 2011, 1:12 pm

chong wrote:Be careful. The pictures don't do the thing justice, its pretty huge and looks like it will come down in a heap!



I saw it on Saturday, thanks for the warning
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby nailgunn » June 13th, 2011, 2:31 pm

chong wrote:Be careful. The pictures don't do the thing justice, its pretty huge and looks like it will come down in a heap!

I thought we should just make that a technical ..... climb trail to the end of the log and bridge ride over to the other side :shock:
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby onlycrimson » June 13th, 2011, 11:01 pm

Trail was in good shape today. Only a little water in the usual spots along the two track. Otherwise it was actually pretty dry out there.
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