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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby mr_opjones » May 5th, 2011, 7:44 am

PK stated on previous page about filling in a spot, not sure if it's the spot in question.
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby PK » May 5th, 2011, 7:54 am

Yep. I back filled that root drop. The following berm had the original trail tread lowered in order to build the height of the berm. It looked as though the lowering extended back to the root drop. (The area now holds water, but with the elevated berm, there is a dry line around it.)
The root drop was 12"- 15" as I recall.
Two years ago, I was able to drive my garden tractor up that drop.
It will settle and a small drop will still exist.
FWIW, the soil I used to fill it in was readily availble......(From the adjcent berm...)

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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby wingzz » May 5th, 2011, 10:51 am

weimie wrote:
utabintarbo wrote:BTW, it also looks like someone was trying to fill in that root drop. These guys need to be stopped. :evil:


I noticed that yesterday! But thought I might have been mistaken.

Is this really bandit trail nazi's or is it the work of the actual trail coordinator? I'm waiting for the rock garden to slowly be removed of rocks....cause that's one tricky section :roll:


I've actually been adding rocks back to that rock garden as it has become rockless
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby jcrazyjj » May 5th, 2011, 2:49 pm

i ate it there last night too. was not a good night for me.
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby dirt » May 5th, 2011, 4:50 pm

c0nsumer wrote:
weimie wrote:
utabintarbo wrote:BTW, it also looks like someone was trying to fill in that root drop. These guys need to be stopped. :evil:


I noticed that yesterday! But thought I might have been mistaken.

Is this really bandit trail nazi's or is it the work of the actual trail coordinator? I'm waiting for the rock garden to slowly be removed of rocks....cause that's one tricky section :roll:


I'm certain that either Mike nor Pete would do either of those.

I'd wager a paycheck that it's bandit work.


So.......

...when do you get paid? I'll be by to pick it up.

(btw, it's neither, not either :wink: )
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby pfox90 » May 5th, 2011, 5:27 pm

utabintarbo wrote:
weimie wrote:
utabintarbo wrote:BTW, it also looks like someone was trying to fill in that root drop. These guys need to be stopped. :evil:


I noticed that yesterday! But thought I might have been mistaken.

Is this really bandit trail nazi's or is it the work of the actual trail coordinator? I'm waiting for the rock garden to slowly be removed of rocks....cause that's one tricky section :roll:


All but guaranteed it's bandits. I can't see a TC doing anything like that. The berms, maybe, but not fill in a ~6" drop.

Sounds like you should reverse that.
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby TheyCallMeBruce » May 5th, 2011, 5:50 pm

I think C0nsumer's original statement was (unintentionally) correct. It was either Mike or Pete. :wink:
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby dirt » May 5th, 2011, 6:19 pm

TheyCallMeBruce wrote:I think C0nsumer's original statement was (unintentionally) correct. It was either Mike or Pete. :wink:


Ahh.. plausible deniability. :lol:
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby Trailbanditt » May 5th, 2011, 8:34 pm

PK wrote
The root drop was 12"- 15" as I recall.
Two years ago, I was able to drive my garden tractor up that drop.
It will settle and a small drop will still exist.

Sorry but last time i checked a 12-15" drop was a small drop! Is this mountain biking or road riding on dirt
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby jalopy jockey » May 5th, 2011, 8:41 pm

Trailbanditt wrote:The root drop was 12"- 15" as I recall.
Two years ago, I was able to drive my garden tractor up that drop.
It will settle and a small drop will still exist.
Sorry but last time i checked a 12-15" drop was a small drop! Is this mountain biking or road riding on dirt


For a freerider maybe. Not on the easy trail taht we recomnd for 1st timer including small children. a 12 inch drop with 16 inch wheels is huge for a 5 year old.
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby HiptonRadcliffIII » May 5th, 2011, 8:49 pm

Trailbanditt wrote:The root drop was 12"- 15" as I recall.
Two years ago, I was able to drive my garden tractor up that drop.
It will settle and a small drop will still exist.
Sorry but last time i checked a 12-15" drop was a small drop! Is this mountain biking or road riding on dirt

It's big enough to flat spot some tubeless weight weenie wheels.
everyone has their own idea of a big drop. to me, a small drop is something an average rider can roll off without an endo. medium is 3-8', Big is 8+ I think that is to scale with how skateparks and the like are built. if you ride with small children, you should be accustom to teaching them to walk their bikes around what they are uncomfortable riding, like a rock garden or steep rough section of trail. single track is not for all riders, the overwhelming majority of stoney is beginner and intermediate trails which if fine for the timid tikes.
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby i69whitey » May 5th, 2011, 8:59 pm

the pines just look messed up, definitely need some trail day love
and not by this 'new' crew
the berms and stuff is just...

...yep, even i am speechless this time

very nice work patchin the muddier spots, but...
i know i don't need to detail it for ya Pete.

also, just as you leave the ridge in the beginning of the back nine a tree was cut down in a nice tight little s curve.
was this done intentionally?
the stump seems to be healthy, i can't understand the logic of this one
that will end up a yard wider now once the short-cutting begins

or is all this preliminary work toward blacktop?

Hip III, 8 foot drops are 'medium' ? maybe for Utah, or some clearly marked spots in Copper Harbor.
not something that occurs naturally in these counties. i question the accuracy of your measuring tools
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby c0nsumer » May 5th, 2011, 9:49 pm

dirt wrote:So.......

...when do you get paid? I'll be by to pick it up.

(btw, it's neither, not either :wink: )


I'd actually meant that I don't think either Pete or Mike would have built the berms. Oh well. Just a paycheck... ;)
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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby PK » May 6th, 2011, 4:58 am

The tree (Bush actually) that was cut down in the back nine in a "S" turn happened at the same time that the (2) fallen trees were cut up and removed on the Rollercoaster.
One of which was right around the corner from that "S" turn.
Since we requested that the park take care of the fallen trees, (Which is "policy" with regard to chainsaws in nearly every park) I can only assue that the park cut down that bush???
It wasn't Mike or myself....As I recall, that was a Honeysuckle, but maybe it was a Autumn Olive and most parks are trying to eliminate those...

I agree that the natural speed-check that was there will likely be gone now...

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Re: Metro North: Stony Creek

Postby PK » May 6th, 2011, 5:09 am

With regard to back filling the root drop in the Pines....

My focus in the Pines has always been water managment.
The trail in that turn, which begins at the root drop, has been lowered below the surrounding grade. In time, that root drop will become nothing more than an exposed root and likely would somehow disappear just like the one on the tight turn going up near the top of Snakes.

Maybe next time I'll write a proposal, submit it to the forum for approval, wait for next year, think about it some more, bring it up agin the following year, talk about doing something some more,.........

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