G.R.XC-MTNBKR wrote: cramer wrote:
mntn-biker wrote:The bigger picture that Cramer and myself are trying to paint is that if we want more (unpaved) trail here in West Michigan, the trails will need to be put in like those at Luton which is unfortunate for all those that want more technical features. I like technical sections of trail, don't get me wrong, but I would give that up to have more riding options here in West Michigan.
Ironically there are sustainable tech features built in to Luton that are more challenging than anything at Yankee but they're mostly overgrown due to complete lack of interest from 99% of the riders.
Please let me know were they are, must have missed them, not sarcasm either, I guess difficuly level is subjective though. You cant compare yankee to luton imo. But I still enjoy luton for an easy ride, its great to have around. When is the last time MMBA built an intermediate/advanced level trail?
Three tech features built at Luton off the top of my head are the rock garden to the right side of the main trail toward the end of the orange loop, the big rock pile at the end of the black loop (most people ride the easier line on the inside) and that rock stair step that was built on the yellow loop which looks to me like it's not getting used much. All of these were built or included intentionally to provide technical challenges for people that want them. I'm not saying these things are super challenging or anything, just that I can't think of anything at Yankee that is more
difficult than any of these things in terms of skill requirement. I can't think of any technical features that were intentional at Yankee except maybe a log pile or two and they're pretty small. Some of the washed out steep climbs at Yankee can be challenging on a singlespeed though, especially in a race where you're already tired when you get to them. I guess I wasn't considering those as technical challenges but instead they are things that require strength or power more than skill... but they are challenges.
Regarding intermediate / advanced trails being built - the skills park and the downhill run at Cannonsburg Ski Area have to qualify for that, those were built by the MMBA. As I mentioned before, when you see the relatively easy tech features virtually ignored at Luton, it doesn't make sense to build a whole trail full of them somewhere. I mean if this is what people want, why does almost everyone that rides out there ride around the ones we have? That being said, if you think this would be a big hit, I think you should consider doing something about it, get something built. I got permission to build some trails on the township property where I live last summer. The MMBA helped me out and it would never have happened without their help, but at the same time, it would never have happened without me getting the ball rolling either. If you can dream it, you can do it!