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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby giantone » May 18th, 2013, 8:02 pm

:D nice! Fun times I am right there with you learning how to ride better as well.
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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby iamkickstand » May 18th, 2013, 9:05 pm

Good stuff!

My rule of thumb is if I can't hear the rim hitting and the tires aren't rolling over my pressure is too high, when those things start happening add a few psi and your perfect :mrgreen:
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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby ibisman » May 22nd, 2013, 6:48 pm

Nah. You still have to carry a tube.
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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby Sortaslow » May 23rd, 2013, 4:53 pm

On some of my bikes I run tubeless and tubed at the same time. Take that!
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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby iamkickstand » May 23rd, 2013, 5:03 pm

you dirty dog you
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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby selma757575 » May 23rd, 2013, 5:10 pm

Lets see, less weight, don't have to carry a tube, more feel, better climbing, better handling, more compliant over bumps! Yep no evidence! Just my opinion!
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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby iamkickstand » May 23rd, 2013, 5:37 pm

selma757575 wrote:Lets see, less weight, don't have to carry a tube, more feel, better climbing, better handling, more compliant over bumps! Yep no evidence! Just my opinion!

Let's see.

Weight "technically" a tubeless tire usually weighs more than a non tubeless tire, non tubless tire with a lightweight tube not necessarily that much lighter to run tubeless, not to mention rim strips, etc. ..... WASH.

Tube - I don't carry one either.I can't recall the last time I had a flat tire. I had two on my DH bike last year, but I was running XC tubes as an experiment. I know that most guys who run tubeless on DH stopped due to tire burping issues, sure some still do, but its not nearly as popular as running the old fashioned tubed tire is. Haven't had a flat on my XC bike in who knows how long, years, maybe even decades and I run low pressures and slam into whatever is in the trail.

More feel - Debateable. Tubeless tires typically feel a bit thicker and stiffer to me, but if you really want it you can have it.

Better climbing - I don't have any problems with traction and climbing now.

Better handling - Again, I don't have any major traction issues.

More compliant - I run just as low of a tire pressure as you, but I also use my suspension to handle bumps, more hog wash.

Your evidence is purely opinion. It's fine you want to run tubless, I don't have a problem with it. Go ahead and run it. Just understand it's not for everyone, and it's not some magical formula. It's just the way YOU choose to set your bike up.
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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby barry007 » May 27th, 2013, 10:46 am

i've got a buddy who ran tubeless for about a year and got a flat at poto only to find a tube inside his "tubeless wheels" - now that was some funny *beep*.
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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby barry007 » May 27th, 2013, 5:31 pm

no, he didnt set them up himself. but theyre stand arch ex and came with tubes and tubeless tires.
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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby c0nsumer » May 27th, 2013, 5:45 pm

barry007 wrote:no, he didnt set them up himself. but theyre stand arch ex and came with tubes and tubeless tires.


Yep. My new bike came with Arch EX rims and tubeless-ready tires as well. It wouldn't be practical for companies to ship tubeless tires set up as such. They are shipped deflated, and time on the shop floor would do unkind things to the sealant and tubeless setup. While pretty trouble-free it does require a bit of regular use to keep them setup properly.
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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby iamkickstand » May 27th, 2013, 6:12 pm

It boils down to personal preference. Tubeless guys just never seem to be willing to accept that.
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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby flamingo » May 27th, 2013, 7:16 pm

The weight loss is pretty much non-existent as lightweight tubes are barely more than the sealant most tubeless tires need to stay airtight.


Maxxis ultralight tube weighs just over 100gr. Sealant that I put into my tires weighs 50gr. Total savings 100gr. Tires that I use are regular non tubeless Maxxis Ikon and Aspen. Both below 500gr each. Stans sealant works wonders with them. Since I started running tubeless I never had a flat. Plus I don't have to worry about pinch flats since I like to run low 20ies pressure.
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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby ColorVoyeur » May 28th, 2013, 4:48 pm

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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby mr_opjones » May 28th, 2013, 5:26 pm

ColorVoyeur wrote:27.5.

Fence straddler :D
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Re: Lowered pressures

Postby c0nsumer » May 28th, 2013, 5:30 pm

mr_opjones wrote:
ColorVoyeur wrote:27.5.

Fence straddler :D


He's the guy who orders Thai as mild plus plus, because medium is just too hot.
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