Anyone set on not going tubeless?

[Di_bear]

I see benefits of both systems but I really can't see bagging on either. We are just lucky we have a choice.

Really can't say it better myself.

[LuckyCharm4x4]

I can say that I rode 1/2 of Yankee tubeless today and 1/2 with a tube. Stans doesn't seal all holes, haha.

[selma757575]

Two years running tubeless and no flats!!! I run low pressures in the 20-25 range and just love the way it feels. Big volume and low pressure makes for a nicer ride on the rigid single speed. Going tubeless helps to keep the weight down and 18 pounds pedals like riding air!!!

[vintagefisher]

ran into a few great deals and trades and i am officially going tubless on my new (to me) Stans Crest ZTRs. My front tire should arrive today. If i like the feel on these i may convert my non race wheels to tubless as well. but then again i like the monstertruck feel of having super heavy tires with tubes on my heavy wheels for training purposes.

[c0nsumer]

For what it's worth, I'm a few months in and I continue to be happy with the tubeless setup. It's just working.

I'm going to pull the tires soon and replace the sealant before the main part of summer hits, but I anticipate no issues with that.

[vintagefisher]

i am going out tonight to get one more test in with tubes to decide what tire i like better in the rear. I rode a Nano all year last year and liked it but had a crossmark on for my last ride and i feel like it climbed much better. Being that i am SS Climbing grip is much needed. But i dont want to mount it tubless and then hate it. So a bit more experimenting before its official.

[yoops]

i switched a few weeks ago, noticed a difference right away riding Addison and Bald mountain, front feels much smoother, even riding rigind!

[lunge bob sweatpants]

Went tubeless a week and a half ago. So far like it a lot. For one thing my new rims are a bit lighter which was immediately noticeable. Feel a lot faster. Running 20psi in front 25psi in the rear and I'm amazed at how full the tires feel (normally run around 35psi). I was expecting a lot of squirming, nope. It also feels like I have quite a bit more traction. Tires are Geax Saguaro, rims are Stan's Arch.

[Sortaslow]

Went tubeless a week and a half ago. So far like it a lot. For one thing my new rims are a bit lighter which was immediately noticeable. Feel a lot faster. Running 20psi in front 25psi in the rear and I'm amazed at how full the tires feel (normally run around 35psi). I was expecting a lot of squirming, nope. It also feels like I have quite a bit more traction. Tires are Geax Saguaro, rims are Stan's Arch.

Love my suguaros and stans combo.

[mtbdudex]

I am still using the same generation of rims I bought back in 1998, Mavic Crossmax with XTR v-brakes, they are bullet proof, and paid for.
Yea - tubes and all. I run the pressure "high" at 50psi or so, been doing that for 14 years on them and no problem for me.
The two times I tried running 35 psi got a pinch flat, never again will I run "low"psi.

[KLydesdale]

I am still using the same generation of rims I bought back in 1998, Mavic Crossmax with XTR v-brakes, they are bullet proof, and paid for.

Of course, this begs the question: Just much use have those wheels seen since 1998?

If you have rim brake wheels from that era, it could be that they were just not ridden all that much. Or you just don't brake all that much, especially in wet conditions. All the ones my buddies and I had are long departed due to sidewall wear (even the Crossmax ones.)

[mtbdudex]

I am still using the same generation of rims I bought back in 1998, Mavic Crossmax with XTR v-brakes, they are bullet proof, and paid for.

Of course, this begs the question: Just much use have those wheels seen since 1998?

If you have rim brake wheels from that era, it could be that they were just not ridden all that much. Or you just don't brake all that much, especially in wet conditions. All the ones my buddies and I had are long departed due to sidewall wear (even the Crossmax ones.)

Good question, I forgot about my "incident" in July-2001 where I broke a few spokes in the rear rim @ Brighton Rec - going uphill torquing they pulled thru the rim!
Rear wheel replaced under warranty, so the rear is 2001 vintage, the front 1998.

Yea, I'm of the mantra "fly fast and free", seriously, I raced 1996-1999 and less braking = less wasted energy.
Curious the test specs for those rims, the "duty cycle" mileage rating before rim failure.....

Now, if buying a new bike, I'd go disc brake and tubeless, 2 x 10, hard tail 29er, etc, gotta go with the latest technology

for the record, here is pict of the 2001 spokes incident....pre-kids rode 2-3 times/week back then thru 2004 when 2nd child was born....
Now I spin 2-3 times/week @ work during lunch and ride once/week outside, work/life/kids balance thing.....

[SteveF]

I have to backpedal on my lack of interest in tubelessness. After picking up a thorn at Burchfield a few weeks ago, and having very little fun fixing the flat, I let my buddy talk me into trying it. (i.e., he threatened to strangle me with a punctured tube if I didn't let him convert my bike!) I did not really expect it, but it does make for a noticeable improvement in trail feel. The tires conform and track and stick better but roll no slower and maybe a little faster. The claims of improvement are overhyped at times, but they are not complete fiction. I don't get many flats anyway, so I don't expect to notice much of a change there, but if I get even fewer I won't mind it!

[c0nsumer]

I did not really expect it, but it does make for a noticeable improvement in trail feel. The tires conform and track and stick better but roll no slower and maybe a little faster. The claims of improvement are overhyped at times, but they are not complete fiction. I don't get many flats anyway, so I don't expect to notice much of a change there, but if I get even fewer I won't mind it!

This is what I ended up finding. Many claims did seem overhyped, but there do seem to be definite benefits.

[mtbdudex]

I did not really expect it, but it does make for a noticeable improvement in trail feel. The tires conform and track and stick better but roll no slower and maybe a little faster. The claims of improvement are overhyped at times, but they are not complete fiction. I don't get many flats anyway, so I don't expect to notice much of a change there, but if I get even fewer I won't mind it!

This is what I ended up finding. Many claims did seem overhyped, but there do seem to be definite benefits.

Ah shucks, now I have "tubless envy"

I "grew up" in my MTB career in the mid-late 90's, hardtail/"high" psi, yet after reading this thread I'm open to tubless when the need arises to replace my rims.
Ha, I fondly raced on the Conti semi-slicks back then, cranked up to like 60psi or so....my how times have changed!